Information Challenges System - HP Wash Alternative

MapleLegends Challenges System

Hello everyone,

This thread will provide an introduction, the reasonings, and all the necessary information about our custom Challenge system, an alternative to HP washing mechanics.

If you would like to know more about the historical discussion, you can visit the Alpha and Beta thread.


「 Motivation 」

Requiring a new player to plan the health pool of their favourite old-times class, or forcing any player to include a "waiting time" in their gameplay while they amass currency to purchase AP Resets, does not feel like a fun and interactive feature for everyone.

At the same time, granting "free" extra health to classes, or including it in preexisting content like boss clears or party quests, felt to us like a missing opportunity to implement something completely new, custom and fresh.

These are the reasonings behind our implementation of this system.


「 The Challenges 」

The Challenge system is a set of unique questlines and tests, unlocked at specific level thresholds, that, when cleared, will grant the player the option to increase their health (and, for Magicians, their mana) pool.

At level 100, the player will be introduced to the system with a quest from our custom NPC Rosa, in Lith Harbor.
Rosa will briefly explain the system, and offer the player their first set of challenges:

• A custom questline, set in a specific game region, that includes a fleshed out storyline, custom assets, and potentially new quest mechanics to offer a seamless journey that provides players with a natural sense of progression.
• A class-specific test, that will often focus on one of the main skills of the player's class, and that the player will have to complete with their job instructor.
• A set of 8 optional challenges, each revolving around a single theme, from which the player will have to choose 3 to complete.

Every 10 levels, until level 180 inclusive is reached, a new set of Challenges will be available as a new Challenge tier. Each tier will be more difficult to clear.


「 Challenges browsing 」

Via the command !challenges , the player can view detailed information on their current challenges data.

The first page provides an overview of the current Challenges level, the progress on the main tier storyline, and the progress on the class-specific test.

The second page lists every currently-active optional challenge, one for each of the 8 types.

• Only one optional challenge per type can be active at any given time.
• By clicking on the challenge name, the player can switch between the available challenges for that specific type (one per tier).
• Changing the active optional challenge will erase the current progress for that challenge type (unless it was already completed).
• Remember: only the optional challenges of the same tier as your current Challenges level will count towards tier progression! The tier of each challenge is displayed on top of its description, in the list.

「 Rewards System 」

After completing a Challenge tier, Rosa will reward the player with the option to claim permanent bonus max HP (and for mages MP).

The first time the player tries to redeem this prize, they will be presented with a quiz to ensure they understand the consequence of obtaining the HP reward from Challenge:

• Base HP/MP is permanently increased to the specified amount below, and the character will be unable to spend ability points into HP/MP*.
  • This action is irreversible.
  • Regular HP washing will no longer be possible.

*Please note that regular HP increase via level-up will still be obtained, and HP equipment can still be worn.


Keep in mind that, since the bonus HP/MP is an opt-in prize, you can complete the Challenge sets in their entirety without claiming it, should you wish to enjoy the extra content without binding your health pool to it.

While you cannot opt out of your choice to redeem the HP/MP prize, you can opt in at any time, regardless of how many challenge sets you have completed.


Below is a table of threshold that specific classes can obtained after completing certain tier.

HP/MP Thresholds

Tier	Levels	Mages (HP)	Mages (MP)	Warriors (HP)	Bucc (HP)	Shad (HP)	Others (HP)
1	100	1,500	9,000	7,000	5,600	3,200	3,200
2	110	1,675	11,750	8,450	7,200	3,950	3,950
3	120	1,850	15,000	10,200	8,950	4,800	4,800
4	130	2,025	18,750	12,250	10,850	5,750	5,750
5	140	2,200	23,000	14,600	12,900	6,800	6,800
6	150	2,375	27,750	17,250	15,075	7,950	7,950
7	160	2,650	30,000	20,200	17,400	9,200	9,200
8	170	3,000	30,000	23,450	19,875	10,550	10,550
9	180	3,400	30,000	27,000	22,500	12,000	12,000

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The thresholds refer to the HP/MP that you will reach if you were to claim the bonuses at the exact tier level. In other words, if you complete your Tier 1 challenges at level 110, your claimable bonus HP will be bigger than 1500, as the system takes into account the natural HP gain via level-up.

Rosa will provide you with information on the claimable bonus HP/MP tailored to your current class, level and HP/MP values.



「 Rosa's Charm 」

We have currently released a total of 3 sets of our Challenges system.
However, you may still claim the full HP and MP bonus, thanks to our custom Rosa's Charm equipment piece.



Once you have completed every available HP Challenge set, Rosa will offer you a new equipment, that will occupy a cosmetic Ring slot.
While you will first receive it without any stats, Rosa will infuse it with any HP and MP that you would be eligible to, at your level, if you had completed the corresponding tier of HP Challenges.

For example, if you're a Warrior at level 175, with all available Challenge sets completed, Rosa's Charm will grant you enough HP to reach the 23,450 threshold.

You may talk with Rosa to update your Charm as many times as you wish, should you reach a new level milestone, or should our threshold values ever change.

Note: whenever a new Tier is released, Rosa's Charm will be removed from your inventory, and you will have to complete the new set of challenges before claiming it again.


「 Eligibility 」

The base HP/MP increase prize can only be redeemed if:

• The player has no AP invested in their HP/MP pool;
  • If they have any, they can take them out via AP Resets in order to be eligible.
• AND their HP is under a certain threshold.
  • The formula we used to calculate the HP eligibility is actually a bit more complicated than this, as it projects your HP to the next threshold level to see if you are eligible.
  • Mages are required to have their HP under the threshold even for MP claims.

Spoiler: Q&A

「 Q&A 」

1. What are these "challenges"?
   With "challenges", we mean tasks that require varying degrees of time and effort to complete. Some may promote interacting with other players, some may bring you to old places you never visited before. We aim to give the players a sense of progression through new content, towards later stages of their gameplay.
   
   
2. What is this "HP/MP AP locked" route?
   Upon first attempting to redeem the bonus HP/MP from Rosa, players will no longer be able to add or reset AP into HP/MP anymore.
   
   
3. Why are we locking AP into HP/MP?
   To prevent players from abusing the system for faster washing toward 30k HP characters.
   
   
4. Do the HP thresholds include HP from equips?
   No, the HP thresholds are the base max HP only. Characters may still be able to benefit from wearing HP equips to get more HP.
   
   
5. Why is the HP threshold chosen and limited in that way?
   The HP threshold choice was done in consideration of the appropriate HP a character should have for those levels, while keeping things challenging and inclusive of the skills that the job has. Hyper Body will also be needed for the hardest-hitting bosses in game.
   
   
6. I'm currently washing with INT, does this mean I'm ruined?
   No, you can still opt-in to the new system! But remember to remove all the AP from your HP/MP first.
   
   
7. I have washed my character, but I have lower HP than the HP threshold stated. Can I still opt-in?
   Yes, you can still opt-in; but the HP reward will be adjusted to match the HP threshold.
   
   
8. Can I do this challenge at level 200? And if so, will it affect the HP reward?
   Yes, you will be able to do the challenges: the HP reward per threshold will be based on a formula that includes your current HP, and what it was supposed to be at the appropriate challenge threshold level. For more information, we encourage you to check Rosa to know what you'll be getting exactly for completing each challenge threshold!
   
   
9. Is the old washing system gone?
   No! The old washing system will still be in place for those that want to get higher HP characters.
   
   
10. Can I still do the challenges to get more HP even if I'm over the HP threshold?
    Yes, you can still do the challenges, but it may not reward you more HP until the higher level challenge threshold. If you are above all the thresholds, then it simply won't reward you any more HP. Please talk with Rosa to know what will be rewarded exactly.
    
    
11. Why can only Mages get MP rewards?
    With how Magic Guard works for Mages, MP is basically part of a mage HP pool. Thus, we should see it as a whole, with proportionate reward to HP and MP so that they make sense with Magic Guard. Since Challenges aim to sidestep the entire washing topic for players, it only make sense to provide both HP and MP rewards for Mages.
    
    
12. Why do Mages get 30k MP but Warriors don't get 30k HP?
    For warriors, we would like to retain some meaning from HP equips. However, for Mages, this is not really practical as they get large amount of MP naturally across levels, easily surpassing what MP equips will provide. Besides, most Mages in-game already have close to 30k MP very early on in the game, so it's just more trouble than it's worth to preserve any sort of meaning from not rewarding 30k MP.

Thank you,
The MapleLegends Team