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Changes to Onyx Apples and GPQ

Discussion in 'Update Notes' started by Piety, Mar 26, 2018.

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    Piety (ㆆᴗㆆ)/ Retired Staff

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    You are still able to 100% get Apples from weddings if you still need them right now. It's still better than the RNG of the once-per-24h APQ of how Apples should technically be obtainable. If we could have APQ right now, I would return them to their original state which is that, and none from weddings/GPQ. Items as strong as they are should never have been something you could just get 12+ of from a wedding whenever you needed them.
    It adds randomness, but it makes them farmable. Guilds have already been running GPQ a decent amount lately, so I'm sure this'll make it even more popular in the weeks to come.

    We'll obviously be keeping a close eye on the market/supply/prices, so if the RNG is too much, we'll adjust. There really was no easy way to change this :p
     
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    u really think i would be that hardworking to even do one gpq? LOL
     
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    Well rip all the chances we newcomers had for a catch up, big regrets not getting married yesterday now lol
     
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    This is not in effect until the next patch.
    If you want to enjoy the OPness of the current wedding one last time, you still have a few days MapleF3
    Weddings should never have been a way for new players to fund themselves anyway.
     
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    Why? I have over 200 apples. Once they go up to 10m ea I'll be rich.
     
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    Increase the wedding ticket to 50k nx.... don’t mess with the vote
    System pls
     
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    The voting system is not being changed.
     
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    Aw nvm den do wutever you want
     
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    People funding themselves with marriage apples while I'm heal spamming chronos hoping for GFA. I get the feeling I've been misusing my time OnionCourage
     
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    Killing chronos for GFA when u can kill Master chronos for helmet dex 60% :thinking:
     
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    But senpai I'm not ready yet :yawn:
     
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    Is it just me or has the Helm dex 60% always felt 10x worse than GFAs@platoon chronos. Like 2 hours of platoons gives me 3-5 GFAs easy but I only ever got 1 scroll from master chronos.

    ON TOPIC:

    This is a good thing. The vote-2-win cycle of getting married and divorced with your own characters to farm apples was easily the cheapest way to generate a steady income, and also made the whole concept of a maple marriage super cheap and meaningless. I'm all for making it so that marriages mean something at all (as much as they should in a cutesy video game).

    Honestly though, GPQ is boring af. Wish the boss was harder
     
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    This is more of a theory question, but how concrete are the criteria for determining whether the GPQ drop rates need to change? I foresee a fair amount of volatility in the near future for apple prices, but this is at least to be expected.

    Perhaps it might be asked what the desired outcome(s), if any, are for the apple market. Would you be happy if supply remained relatively the same to what it is now? What if it was to increase significantly? Decrease significantly? The same could be asked about the prices. One of my concerns is that the drop rate for apples will actually be quite fair relative to their power, but because so many groups will be doing GPQ, the supply compared to now will still increase noticeably. This may trigger a nerf of the drop rate, potentially killing a lot of initiative for guilds to run for apples at all, then the apple market goes a bit wacky, and so on and so forth, perhaps leading people back to relying on marriages for their apples without much thought for GPQ again, though now the reward for marriage is much lower.

    Maybe your primary concern is less centered around the actual supply/demand of apples and more oriented to introducing a skill/effort-based way to obtaining them. Even if this is so, I hope there are still concrete criteria you're measuring.

    Anyway, this post isn't meant to be critical in any sense. I'm just trying to help make sure that you and the rest of the staff who have been involved in this project/discussion really know where you're wanting to go and can measure that progress with some level of certainty. Hopefully if you can share more of your vision for how this is to affect the server, it will help us players give you better and more on-point feedback.
     
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    Time to spam gpq next patch in hopes for unbalanced droprate :trihard:
     
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    I’m so sorry for necroposting but whatever happened to this? (Gpq dropping apples) L>gpq buffs
     
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    Before APQ, you got apples from marriage, that was lowered or removed and moved to GPQ until we got APQ basically.
     
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    Apples are w.e, bring back jr rog summoning sacs though FoxF3
     
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