Discussion of art selling exemption in T&C

Pay ur artists kids!

 

I mean... If a lot of effort is being put into avoiding RWT, i dont think having exceptions like this makes sense... In the end, if someone wants to transfer mesos, they will end up using art for It.

 

I can't actually think of any end-game players who used art to catapult themselves into the end-game. Even if one wanted to, they'd run out of customers long before they would ever reach that point, especially with all of the cases of free art done for their friends. Frankly, of all of the forum artists I've been around they generally don't care about making fast, efficient in-game progress and more just want to play comfortably. It all makes the whole argument sound based on theory more than the actual reality of the current art market on here. Even where there were issues with abuse of the system they tended to be adequately dealt with, as in the cases against AI generated art on here. There is heavy scrutiny done within the system by staff, and if there were any issues the policy likely would have been changed by now. The overwhelming majority of art on here is done without trying to take advantage of the system or abuse it in any way, so theoretical problems just don't hold much merit to the reality at hand.

 

Back when i originally started playing legends, the sister of a friend of mine started playing casually and found out about art sales being a way to produce meso. Long story short, by lvl 50s she already had over 1B ( i dont recall the exact amount) and that was around the time of 70m white scrolls. These drawings didn't take long at all and the price was around 25-35m iirc. I'm not sure how active people currently are in buying art but back then it was way more common practice and did feel somewhat unfair at times.

With that being said, while i do agree that having an IRL skillset translates into meso production is unfair, i doubt it realistically poses an issue right now since the decreased activity on art purchases. Inherently it's definitely unfair though.

 

Why does akash hate artists?

 

It's perfectly reasonable to be afraid of the multiart meta. Not all of us can partake.

 

Art is more valuable than mesos.

When the server inevitably closes down the road, my mesos and gears won’t be coming with me, but at least I’ll have my character portraits to remember them by and some fond memories.

 

Some people just like to draw, some like to write guides, some like to troll and point and laugh at people for whatever reason - should the person thats being bullied get paid with mesos for "CrEaTiNg CoMeDy"? If so, then I'd probably have a little over ten billion mesos.

Lin makes videos because he loves to make videos. Youtube has terminated numerous accounts because of DMCA copyrights from DAZIUNDA, LLC. but that has NEVER stopped him from making another channel and restarting it over again. Thats just what Lin does, and I find it amazing. Shrugs.

MapleRoyals is MapleRoyals, MapleLegends is MapleLegends. They both are their own servers, and the head Admin gets to choose how he/she/they want to run and do things.

I 110% believe that art selling should continue, I've seen some stickman-style art that make mesos, meme-style art that make mesos, multi-colored art sort of like "stained glass" at churches have that make mesos, there are anime-style chibi art that make mesos.

The styles are endless, but at the end of the day like what -ovv said

So all in all it doesn't really matter how MapleStory private servers run things, when it comes down to RWT/RMT for MapleLegends art, the rule is to make it open to the public so staff can see that its not just some random trade for like a few hundred mil and be like "no no no, ThAt'S RwT ThAt'S a No nO BaNnEd" teehee

 

So what you're saying is that i shoooould get paid? ok who wants an epic sigma phonk edit of their character killing stuff i'll make you look cool for a 30 second vid for some mezoz

 

Some of these art prices are getting absolutely ridiculous.

this one specifically

 

I have yet to see an expensive art shop that survives more than like 10 commissions before getting bored of the game or burnt out. I’d like to see some actual examples of significant abuse instead of of on-paper speculation.

 

i am impressed in how u always get the point.

IMO, i know alot of works thats can be usefull in game, but only art is allowed, if it should be? again, IMO no..
drawing can be laborious? More than Farm? Maybe.. but its "bad luck" from who do it

 

I have no idea, I just picked the most extreme case. While I do see art selling as a positive overall, the people making 100m+, especially off a single commission, makes me start to question just how healthy this is as an anti rwt server, especially when you can sell art that you didn’t even create yourself?

You’re asking me if something was delivered? Aren’t there staff members that monitor these transactions?

 

Should this be the main consideration? This is like saying RWTs should not be bannable unless the person used it to reach endgame.

50m makes a huge difference to many players, especially players who started the game. An unfair advantage is an unfair advantge.

OP made salient points about the reasonableness of allowing this particular kind of RWT. Whether anybody has abused it YET should not be relevant.

 

i was scammed for art a while ago and nothing is/could be done, and like you said you don’t even have to draw on your own. Can see where you go with a rwt loophole here.. in particular when the issue is that a real life thing is a privilege ingame-wether paying someone for art is worth it for the mesos is also not that relevant I think. I don’t think it does a lot of harm, but an unfair playing field and possible loopholes just isn’t fun. I think art is fun and it brings some player interaction but it doesn’t seem very fitting for this server. If players are willing to write guides, help each other, and even create content for free; artists wouldn’t just disappear entirely if mesos weren’t involved. (Sorry for format wrote on phone) (in bed) (with a female)

 

Does that really matter though? I’m a seasoned mapler taking month long breaks and returning like many, if I could cough up a easy 500m now I’d have a gamechanging amount of mesos to enjoy instead of working for it, I already know I’m not going to play until I reach a perfect wep and reach PB so I’m not going to make a HB mule MU mule HS mule and a archmage;it’s silly that a real life skill (or rwt) can change the game for someone like that, even if it’s not a lot of mesos. - reminder that a streamer actually got RWT banned because they bought a follower for 150k.