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DPM Compilation

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Gurk, Mar 13, 2022.

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    10.35m dpm MapleF8
     
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    have to evade some attacks because of low hp. Still have a room for progress.
     

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    Non-sed shad DPM - 6 MAN

    DPM 43: Echo + cider + SE + MW20

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    DPM 43: 50% Echo + HT Buff + cider + SE + MW20

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    HT Buff + MW20 range:
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    Not according to the Melee vs Ranged thread on the forums
     
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    But shadower isn’t supposed to be able to do damage something doesn’t add up here OnionF6
     
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    I forgot to disclose the amount of pots used.
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    Shad buffs when
     
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    So we selectively ignore every other boss where we can get fair comparisons and take into account HT, where you can have an absurd amount of redundant damage and inflated damage. You can reference shad dummy DPM where you can see lower damage on a higher range. If you somehow want to imply that shads are good at HT besides sedding I don't know what to tell you. I'm sure you could get a 14-15m shad and 16-17m hero/dark if you wanted to flex dpm.

    It's quite honestly getting a bit tiring. I dont mean to be disrespectful but it feels like some of these replies are just for the sake of being contrarian. I'm sure if I asked you outside of this context if shads are good at ht you'd said no.
     
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    My reply was to blen's statement below:
    Blen is implying that shadower is OP. I am saying that it is not according to the melee vs ranged thread. I'm sure that you also agree that shadowers are not OP.
     
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    That just seems to me like you're being sarcastic and implying the post is a joke. I don't think you need to reference the post to express that you don't think shadowers are good at HT. If that's not the case I sincerely apologize.
     
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    If class A has 80% of class B’s dummy dpm, but can do 90% of their dummy dpm in actual bossing scenarios, while class B can only do 70% of their dummy dpm, class A technically does more dpm

    dummy dpm is a meaningless number
     
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    Except I never argued against this. My point was that the dummy dpm was LOWER at higher damage range than the HT post. If you have lower damage range and perform a higher dpm at a boss, it means the damage was inflated, be it by cleave in this scenario. I think it's well established that the cleave damage shadowers could contribute is redundant since it's not head cleave.
     
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    I don’t think you understand; it’s not inflated because of fake cleave damage. It’s inflated because other classes lose dpm to things like repositioning, whereas a Shad can execute 90% if their dummy dpm due to high avoid and shifter.

    a Shad has 80% of the dummy dpm of say an archer but can effectively deal 90% of that dummy dpm whereas an archer has to constantly reposition and can only do 70% of their dummy dpm

    thus the end result is that their actual, in-practice damage is good, while nobody cares about dummy dpm
     
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    I don’t think any archer has ever broken 10m dpm45 in HT despite the existence of archers with higher range. Even most NLs struggle to break 10m

    complaining about dummy dpm seems weird when the actual in-boss result seems pretty spectacular to me
     
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    I don't think you understand. 6296 ~ 11180 shadower, 9.63m dummy dpm. 5978-10550 10.4m at ht. How does the lower range shad have a higher DPM?
     
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    Hitting multiple heads maybe?
     
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    2 target bstep is lower damage than assassinate. It's very very likely to be inflated cleave.
     
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    ok
     
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