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HP Washing Helper

Discussion in 'Help & Advice' started by Hyoon, Oct 18, 2017.

  1. OP
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    Hyoon Zakum Retired Staff

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    Well you do require a certain point of HP to survive such current end game bosses such as HT.
    This requirement is 5.6k to ensure that you don't die instantly if you for any point your HB gets dispelt.

    But yes genuinely I always tell players to analyze themselves in terms of what they want from Legends and to set simple HP goals.
    If you don't see yourself as a hard grinder but tend to socialize more, then it's fine not to HP wash etc.
    However perfectionists will always want to push their stats to the extreme, it will take time but you will reap the rewards at the end of it.
     
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    I'd like to know if it's worth it in terms of NX cost to MP wash or regular wash with my situation. I know you use the minimum expected values but that's not realistic and I planned this out with slightly below average expected values.

    Desired HP: 9500
    Current Level: 86
    Desired Level: 170
    Job: Hermit
    Current Base Int: 186
    Total Int from Equips: 304 w/ MW9
    Current Base MP: 1697 (base)
    Current HP: 3555 (base)
    Additional Information: Planning on upping my total int from gear to 330 by level 130.
     
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    Hyoon Zakum Retired Staff

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    Using the minimum ensures that you will 100% reach your goal.
    This deviation may be 10% off from what the cost calculates to be.
    As you progress you can see how far you are from reaching your goal, likewise you can post another request for me to calculate again if you want to know.
     
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    Desired HP: 6k
    Current Level: 92
    Desired Level: 155
    Job: Hermit
    Current Base Int: 41
    Total Int from Equips: 126
    Current Base MP: 1520
    Current HP: 3044
     
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    Hi Hyoon. Thank you very much for offering this calculation assistance

    Goal: 30k hp at Lvl 200
    Current Level: 0 (not created yet)
    Job: Night Lord
    Constraint : To reset all base INTS at level 155. (I am aware that I need both hp and mp washing)

    Total Int from Equips: Please suggest a list of item which I should acquire before creating my character. (I will have plenty of time to collect those item since waiting for vote NX takes years)
    Assume I have MW 20 by that time when leeching my character too.

    Please let me know how much NX I would need to accumulate. No problem I can wait for 10 years.
     
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    Noob from US Blue Snail

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    Desired HP:30k
    Current Level:75
    Desired Level: 150?
    Job: fighter
    Current Base Int: 54
    Total Int from Equips: 66+54=120
    Current Base MP: around 950
    Current HP: 9.9k
    Additional Information: ive putted already 60 ap into hp that why my hp is high rn,gotta rest that q.q
     
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    Min HP @ 83
    24*83+172 = 2164 HP (This number doesn't take into account Improved HP skill)
    9273-2164 = 7109 HP excess

    Min HP @130
    24*130+172 = 3292
    According to BBB you get 40 more HP from Improve HP skill per level
    40*(140-83) = 1880
    3292+1880+7109 = 12281 HP at level 130

    18750-12681 = 6469 HP needed
    6069/50 = 130 Washes

    Min MP @ 83
    4*83+156 = 488 MP
    824-488 = 336 MP excess
    336/4 = 84 Washes

    Leveling from 83 > 130 MP gain
    130-83 = 47 Level difference
    47*7 = 329 MP
    329/4 = 82 Washes

    84+82 = 166 Washes

    You'll have reached your goal by 130.
     
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    Min HP @ 109
    22*109+380 = 2778 HP
    3658-2778 = 880 HP excess

    Min HP @ 155
    22*155+380 = 3790 HP
    3790+880 = 4670 HP by level 155

    5600-4670 = 930 HP needed
    930/16 = 58 Washes needed

    Min MP @ 109
    18*109+111 = 2073
    2060-2073 = - 13 MP
    You would need to gain 930-(-13) MP = 943 MP

    MP gain by 155
    155-109 = 46 Level difference
    46*8 = 368 MP

    943-368 = 575 MP needed

    Unfortunately you won't be able to reach your goal by 155.
    You would still need 36 washes.
     
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    Min HP @ 79
    20*79+378 = 1958 HP
    2997-1958 = 1039 HP Difference

    Min HP @ 120
    20*120+378 = 2778 HP
    2778+1039 = 3817 HP by level 120

    5000-3817 = 1183 HP needed
    1183/16 = 74 Washes needed

    Min MP @ 79
    14*79+148 = 1254 MP
    1482-1254 = 228 MP excess
    228/12 = 19 Washes

    74-19 = 55 Washes Left

    Leveling from 79 > 120 w/ INTS
    120-79 = 41 Level difference
    41*8 = 328 MP
    328/12 = 27 Washes

    55-27 = 28 Washes Left

    19+27 = 46 Washes Total you can do by 120
    46*16 = 739 HP min
    46*18 = 828 HP avg

    You'd have close to 4.6k - 4.7k by 120.
     
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    The MP is lower than the formula because when you are at equilibrium (your MP = formula MP) you can still wash once, you can't wash if you are below it.

    Min HP @ 132
    22*132+380 = 3284 HP
    4106-3284 = 822 HP excess

    Min HP @155
    22*155+380 = 3790 HP
    3790+822 = 4612 HP by 155

    Min MP @ 132
    18*132+111 = 2487
    2460-2487 = - 27 MP

    5600-4612 = 988 HP needed
    988/16 = 61 Resets needed
    61*16 = 976 MP needed

    976-(-27) = 1003 MP needed

    MP gained by 155
    155-132 = 23 Level difference
    23*8 = 184 MP gained
    1003-184 = 819 MP needed

    You'll only be about 4.8 - 5k HP by 155.

    Post - 28
     
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    how to get 5.6k hp starting from lvl 30 archer base int 50 by 150
     
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    Desired HP: 6k
    Current Level: 120
    Desired Level: 155
    Job: Night Lord
    Current Base Int: 41
    Total Int from Equips: 126
    Current Base MP: 1822
    Current HP: 4.3k
     
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    Desired HP: 18.6k
    Current Level: haven’t create it yet
    Desired Level: 120
    Job: dark knight
    Current Base Int: 0 (wonder how much int I would need to reach 30k hp with hb at lvl 120
    Total Int from Equips:
    Current Base MP:
    Current HP:
     
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    Desired HP: 5600
    Current Level: 156
    Desired Level: 170
    Job: Nightlord
    Current Base Int: 4
    Total Int from Equips: 83
    Current Base MP: 2362
    Current HP: 4524
     
    Last edited: Dec 5, 2017
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    some questions about hp washing with an assassin, tell me if this is not the right place to ask.
    1) What is the formula for hp gain per lvl up for a sin?
    2)What is the formula for mp gain per lvl up for a sin?
    3)How much of the mp gained per lvl up can i use for washing? is it only the extra mp gained through int?
    4)Formulas for hp gain for adding fresh ap, and for adding ap-reset ap for a sin.

    **EDIT: Actually, if you could just share any formula you have with me that would be great. i could even make an automatic calculator for this.

    5)general question about mp washing. in the guides it says that you gain extra TotalInt/10 per ap added to mp. however, when i tried it, only my base int made a difference. is there a random factor here or are the guides wrong?
     
    Last edited: Dec 3, 2017
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    Desired hp: 10,000
    Lv:46
    Desired lv : 155
    Job: assasin
    Int base: 57
    Int gear: 41
    Current mp:985
    Current hp:1587
     
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    Desired HP:18.6k without hb
    Current Level:118
    Desired Level: 145
    Job:dk
    Current Base Int: 26
    Total Int from Equips: 26+54
    Current Base MP: 734
    Current HP: 12265 without dep and hb
    Additional Information: mybe u know how to calculate ap base? im not sure if that 25+5xlvl or 30+5xlvl or 35+5xlvl
     
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    Desired HP:18.75k
    Current Level:120
    Desired Level: 170
    Job:NL
    Current Base Int: 200
    Total Int from Equips: 136 with mw20 (Total int when lvling 336)
    Current Base MP: 8131
    Current HP: 7718
    Stats in HP/MP: MP(105) HP(237)
     
    Last edited: Dec 31, 2017
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    Wondering how much int from gear , considering i have 135 base int, and by which level, will i get to around 7.5k HP, as a nightlord.
    Let's say 50int from gear
     
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    Desired HP:5.7K
    Current Level:51
    Desired Level: 150
    Job:NL
    Current Base Int: 82
    Total Int : 153 with equips
    Current Base MP: 1338 with no equips on
    Current HP: 2071
     
    Last edited: Jan 9, 2018

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