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Instant tele all players to Cwkpq Bonus.

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Subterlabor, Nov 27, 2023.

  1. Subterlabor
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    With the new changes to bonus with time being even more tight, and difference between ping/internet speed/lag affecting players I propose a small change.

    When someone from the pre bonus map (between boss map and bonus) enters the bonus room, ALL players on that map should be instantly teleported to the bonus stage.

    This stops (atleast minimizes) rookie players botching the entire bonus stage, and gives a better playing field to everyone rather than waiting on the map timer/blue text. Where as before it might have only caused minor issues, with tighter times in bonus this could cost all runners their boxes, and induce an unhealthy amount of toxicity into Cwkpq as newer (unexperienced) players explore the content and inevitably make mistakes.
     
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  2. Endorphinss
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    Endorphinss Mixed Golem

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    i have a better idea!
    revert the unnecessary bonus nerfs.
     
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  3. Tarnished
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    IMO coordinating with your party is a difficulty that belongs in PQs
     
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    Not when it costs me my money :)
     
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    If you aren't breaking boxes, did you really lose out? hmmmmm
     
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  6. TORONTOTOKYO
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    i think this is a good suggestion. all chars could be teleported to the middle of the bonus map.
    can u make this an official suggestion?
     
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    Subterlabor Wolfspider

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    oh Im unsure how to even do that lol. I thought we shout into the wind and hope a mod reads it
     
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    It's a thread posted in the suggestions section, how much more official can it get?
    (Unless it was moved after previously not being in the suggestions subforum)
     
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  9. brunandes
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    [QUOTE ="Subterlabor, post: 355754, member: 57061"]oh Im unsure how to even do that lol. I thought we shout into the wind and hope a mod reads it[/QUOTE]
    I think he means for u to add the 'middle of the bonus map' into ur suggestion.
     
  10. TORONTOTOKYO
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    sorry. i meant to the middle of the map because it is just not fair to whoever that got rolled top right. the changes to apq bonus were fine because every spot seems to have decent number of boxes to hit.
    in cwk, the dude that misses a jump to top right, would probably fail to hit 50% of his boxes. rip.
     
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    Really not a fan of the CWKPQ bonus changes, main reason I ran was actually for a bit of NX while bossing and to help friends who needed pirate pin, now even on 4-5mans (which I'd say are the norm?) I'd be forced to have a pet w/ item loot to get my boxes, and pray you don't roll top right / miss a jump.

    If nerfing EV of the expedition was the goal (which feels odd as it was one of the few high EV non farming content), nothing feels worse than missing a box, i'd rather have changes reverted and slightly decreased drop rates.
     
  12. Endorphinss
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    Why decrease drop rate? It was completely fine until now
    Just undo this unjustified change that no one asked for
     
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    I completely agree that the spawnpoint should be in the middle now.
    However, I find it funny how in the meantime people feel entitled to being able to opening all boxes when they run with less people than the content is intended for. Should a 3-4 man be able to open all boxes? I dont believe they should. But Im sure thats a controversial opinion.
     
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    But who is to say how many people the content is intended for? ML is not GMS, with the quality of gear that's easily available on this server there would be no challenge in the game if players were not pushing the boundaries on # of attackers for content. Everything in this game, my Hero fulfills its role mostly AFK and completely naked; CWK was the one exception where it felt like investing 197 lvs and 5k+ coins on a cleaver made any difference.

    The investment cost on 2/3-man CWK is higher than 6-man HT yet the rewards are now gated behind the hardest boss fight in the game
    [Challenge: maintain 97% DPM efficiency on bonus boxes while looting multiple platforms and also don't DC or crash or else you get nothing (impossible)]

    I think if the tables were turned and it were HT's rewards that came out of bonus boxes, people would be rightfully flipping out
     
    Last edited: Nov 28, 2023
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    Apparently working hard enough to get goodr gear so I'll be able to run content in a way that i want is entitlement
    Hilarious
     
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    Damn... I'm sorry for your loss. Hope all is well!
     
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    I see no reason why CWKPQ has to be gatekept. If you trio a single HT you're entitled to roughly 50mil splits. If you solo a couple zakums you're also entitled to like 50mil in loot. But god forbid you do a couple 3man cwkpq's as now you are no longer entitled to the full 20 boxes and ~50mil loot from them.

    Hero and DK are the true victims of every patch. It's wacky to see them lose viability every single time with constant nerfs and no meaningful buffs, especially to their one viable endgame.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Idek how you opened them all pre nerf i tried 3 man once or twice when a cleave crashed or something and I lost boxes every single time
     
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    People run 3-4man cwkpq for the same reason you join 6man ht instead of 12man ht.
     

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