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Information July 2024 Balance Changes [Explained]

Discussion in 'Update Notes' started by xiaoyaoz, Jul 12, 2024.

  1. xadra
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    Just bravo. So hyped about the ellin pq and new ellin forest stuff
     
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    If Ellin Forest had mobs increased in level (to make it suitable for lv100-110), the Monster book cards for those mobs will now be incorrect (both in text data and the associated colour of the cards). Will this be fixed during the patch or will AnnolisAnnolis have to make more errata posts
     
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    I noticed Permanent Beginners aren't being tracked as a stat, but this past month I did see like 10 beginners (including my own) hit level 30. It would be interesting to see how they compare popularity wise. I have no statistics to back up my claim, but it does seem like more and more people are "resorting", for lack of a better word, to playing Odd Job characters to keep things interesting or challenging.
     
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    does the new captain command work in every partyquest?
     
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    very excited to try out the hp challenge stuff for my zero wash characters. Thanks for your hard work!
     
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    Yes, the mobs level range are within the mentioned range. And yes, they are viable for higher levels to some extent.

    Nope, it's the map without mobs. Not sure if you're suggesting for the Room of Delusion to have the same treatment o.o

    Only the new mobs have tweaked levels, the old mobs are still the same. The new mobs do have cards too though, but they are custom to ML, do let us know if you find any errors!

    Only for the reworked pq, i.e. cwkpq, apq, and epq. Other pqs will have to wait for their rework to get this new feature.
     
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    5-6F safe ropes may be the GREATEST thing ever added, ever!!!! now my husband can return from perma-retirement and grind without feeling dead and empty! <3
     
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    So in order to make sure that all the data could be easily gleaned in one figure (rather than 8 separate tables) and have it easily comparable, I had actually tried to standardized the x axis and y axis. However, data for the 0 - 10 was dropped unintentionally. As for the post 50, it actually gets captured in the last column, it seems like it was dropped but it wasn't. Simply because theres just too many one offs.

    The full version is here: [​IMG]

    This is the first time we're experimenting with this way of communicating data, so apologizes for the errors. And I hope our players understand, that this despite the mix up this is us trying new ways to provide as much transparency and insights back the players. I'll try to make revisions to this later, but the overall trends remain quite similar in the other graphs.
     
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    Great work!
    I'm curious, how are we calculating the character level distribution in the date range provided, is that graph looking at characters 'active' between 01/01 - 28/06 and their final level at 28/06?
     
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    Drk being the number most played class is kind of wrong half of them are either low level hb mules(leeching hb)or high level hb mules(nt/pb) or sed mules in ht(Luk dk)
     
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    I think colored scatterplots might illustrate the player count / attempt concentration better! You could still keep your histograms at the top and side if needed (easier said than done though, I don't remember how to run something like this MapleF2)
    [​IMG]

    The only issue I foresee is the chart having too many plots that makes it unreadable, but we can circumvent that by sampling the data (assuming that the current charts show all entries in the server within a time frame).

    Love the data anyway!!!!!!! SlimeLove
     
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    Can we get the full version for Core Blaze as well?
    OnionRay
     
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    I believe Zak helm buyers and HTP buyers have contributed a lot to the 0-5 entry bar.
     
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    Is Chao a part of fhe Ephie fight or is there another reason why he's never mentioned again after being introduced?

    Ty as always staff, huge patch for challenge players!

    One potential downside I might see here (obviously all speculation until servers go live) is that EPQ was currently one of the few PQs that could somewhat keep up with grinding in terms of eph. With this PQ being made harder (or 'less soloable'), doesn't that just put PQs in an even worse position than they were already in?
    Perhaps I'm reading it wrong, so feel free to correct me. But from the way I'm reading it, it just sounds like longer runs for the same exp.
     
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    IIRC they are both storyline-driven bosses. The quest line first requires you to kill Chao before you get to the end where the last quest is to kill Ephenia. They are on separate maps
     
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    To be honest, I don't know if I agree with the portal removal. Isn't it because you need time to improve other maps and have the portal as a temporary solution? By limiting the number of viable maps, you may inadvertently prevent player growth within the server. I've seen instances where players left for other servers because they couldn't find maps to grind on active hours. Just my 2 cents. Keep up the good work.
     
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    To be fair, those players that quit could have also just found other maps to grind on. If the extra few mil exp/hr from ulu2 is worth more to someone than staying on Legends, feel free to leave :^)
     
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    thank you for the notes!
     
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    The portals haven't been active for over a year, in terms of functionality nothing has changed
     
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    Will put out full versions for all the bosses! But this won’t be available till maybe tomorrow~
     
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