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Just why jq

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by thechild, Aug 6, 2024.

  1. FieryRabbit
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    Agreed 100%..Couldn't have said it better myself.
     
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    Yeah when this event first happened I warned the staff team to have an element where you could get coupons through grinding or mobbing, not everyone wants to JQ for event stuff. Everytime they do the DKT style event it just feels very discriminatory.
     
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    but you can with retro reach?
     
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    I guess too rng for coupons
     
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    On the bright side you guys, our lords have heard our calls and we will now not harm anymore keyboards for the rest of the event
     
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    Yeah that isn't mobbing tho that is just PQ grinding. Its definitely a grind for sure though. But that isnt enemy killing out in the maple world which is what I am referring to. And you wouldn't need a party of 3 for that.
     
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    why should you get raffles from not participating in the event and doing things you would normally be doing? that defeats the whole purpose of the event. cosmetics maybe but raffles no.
     
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    Wouldn’t grinding and mobbing also be RNG?
     
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    It’s not a matter of should or shouldn't. There were a few events in the past where mobs dropped raffle tickets, which received positive responses, so why shouldn't it be part of an event now? Since this is a community-driven game, it’s probably more beneficial to consider community feedback, unlike the corporates, who have more incentives catering to the small group of big spenders.

    How would you even define the purpose of an event? An event doesn't have to be limited to activities in a seasonal map; the area of participation is entirely up to the game designers. The normal things players do in-game are vastly different. In official MapleStory, maple equipment dropped from mobs all over the world. An event helps create a nice atmosphere and festive mood, brings positive vibes to the game, and can help attract more casual players for an overall better economy.
     
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    There used to be events where players could collect world-wide drops to contribute to something that rewarded everyone who participated. It wasn't too complex, and it was fun to be part of the contribution.

    Or tokens that dropped from mobs could be exchanged for Maple equipment, and people would party up to farm them together.

    Now, it has become a debate on who is more deserving of the event and rewards, and suddenly players need niche skills to enjoy it. They can't even express their unhappiness without being dumped on.
     
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    Events should be about players coming together to experience something different and have fun/make memories together. It should not be about how can I abuse/gain the most from it. Maple equips dropping =/= raffles - The actual event is usually something else and this is just a bonus. The way MapleLegends handles maple eq is better imo since you can obtain them from the pqs during the levels you actually need them rather than having to buy them off of someone farming them for profit (although you could just make pq mules to farm them anyway).

    These events like puff daddy for example are actually worse imo. Since you can only get raffles when puff daddy is spawned there's a chance you might not get any raffles at all if you're not online at the right time.

    It's not a debate on who is more deserving. Everyone can participate. Staff has gone out if their way to make it as inclusive as possible by making easier version of the jq and if that's still not good enough you can farm raffles from axe pq which does not take much skill at all. But again, the event should not be about "how can I abuse/farm/benefit from this the most". It should be about having fun.

    What you're asking for is like saying you want a scroll of secrets every time GM hosts fitness even though you're not going to participate. Which seems very ridiculous imo.
     
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    I definitely agree with these statements. However, the current situation doesn't seem to reflect that people are coming together or having fun. That’s why I think it's important that we're addressing why this is happening.

    Everyone has their own version of fun, and when someone voices something they dislike, instead of discussing how we can make it even slightly better for everyone, we start defining what an event should or shouldn’t be. Saying that those who don’t participate shouldn’t receive any rewards may make logical sense, but this is a game, and it should be more focused on fun. Even logging into the game can be considered a form of participation.

    An event can be anything that brings in the mood. Not every event has to follow the style of a GM event, so it’s not a fair comparison. If anything, Puff Daddy was closer to a GM event because you didn’t know exactly when it would happen, and not everyone would be online at the right time.

    So, that's definitely not what I'm asking for. Again, raffle tickets have dropped from mobs in a few past events, and I'm just expressing how I enjoyed them, not making demands or expecting anything. So I'm struggling to see how these connect: Why should one be rewarded for not participating in the event? Or how an event should be.


    It can be really difficult to express emotions in a way that everyone will understand, and I see that many struggle with this, often leading to misunderstandings where it seems like we're demanding something when we're not. Imagine being a kid who gets their first candy from their mom and really likes it. So, you ask for more, but instead of getting more, you get scolded and told you’ve had enough. Do you get what I mean? It’s confusing.
     
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    This event would have been perfectly rounded out with golden gach as an alternative method for APR/raffle farming. It was one of my favorite incentives to go out and card hunt on my incomplete projects.
     
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    So I saw this mentioned in an other post as well, and generally those collect world-wide drops would lead to a community boss people have to slain (ex: Snowman). The issue with events back then is that a lot of people faced crash issues and people on wine/mac couldn't participate those at all. As some also have mentioned already there was also the problem of people having to be online at specific periods of the day and people hoarding etc's until the very end of the event. I am not saying community world-wide are completely over or anything, but like with anything they were riddled with flaws as well that people were less than happy about
     
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    Understandable, I know these issues are difficult to solve. Personally, I'm okay with the lack of certain content, or if it's something I wouldn't enjoy, I'd simply skip it and continue with my usual activities.

    I'm just a little upset that sometimes players get dismissed over legitimate concerns. I’m not pointing fingers at anybody, and just want to raise awareness that people should be more understanding. Most of us are just trying to enjoy the same game we all love after a long, exhausting day of whatever everyone is going through. We don't have to be so strict about defining rules in a virtual environment.
     
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    At the end of the day we just can't please everyone and that's with everything. You also gotta understand that while you face a concern or a problem it doesn't mean its a problem for everybody else. This extra patch for Anniversary has addressed a lot of concerns there were but at the end of the day it still won't please everyone, and that's just how it is.
     
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    Thank you. I hope I don't sound too ungrateful or anything. This is the first and only MapleStory private server I’ve ever played, and I thoroughly enjoy both the good and the scandalous nature of the community. We don't have to please everyone; otherwise, it’d be boring without the drama.
     
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    And we appreciate EVERYTHING you and the team does for us. I couldn't manage adulthood without this great community<3
     
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    I'm the last to be in favor of a jump quest, but in Demon Tower its different, varied, warlike and requires cooperation and skill beyond a normal jump quest .
    even though I think the event should have been kept at a high skill level, staff still made it easier and accessible to everyone + make the alternative pq easier
    In addition, I am happy to see that the raffles do not come out of monsters and do not benefit the leechers
    overall I think the content is really fun and
    challenging so far
     
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