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Make PQ Exp more worthwhile compared to grinding

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by grillwurst93, Jul 21, 2024.

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  1. CaptainNemo
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    If a player would quit at 100-120 because there's no PQing, they would quit at 120+ for the same reason. Still attempting to tackle the wrong symptoms and problems. Which brings us back to the actual issue, which is lack of incentive to run it vs grinding. Moot point.
    [EDIT] Do I think there should be PQ content for 100 to 120? Sure, I see no harm in that, given that it would fit a level range that as said is hell for most players. Do I think simply adjusting level ranges to do so is the way to go about it? No, absolutely not.
     
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    Simple solution is make a minor version of cwkpq thats doesn't contain huge strong af bosses, make it only 1 random boss with less HP and weaker output dps. Staffs literally gate-keeping people out of all content late game which require big-as gears and tons of HP washing which isn't nice and not aesthetic
     
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    Except these imaginary pq-or-quit players aren’t actually the target audience and simply adjusting level ranges was not actually the only suggested change. But don’t let me stop you from absolutely savaging these strawmen.
     
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    I agree PQs need some big change, and no I don't think the suggestions here will be enough to fix them. However, just because you think the suggested change won't solve ALL of your "symptoms" and "problems" doesn't mean it's not worth it. It can still be the step in the right direction.

    And the notion that "people will eventually quit whether we implement this or not" is such a weird thing to obsess over. Yah, people who quit will quit. So what? make the changes that are better for people who are currently playing. I will eventually quit. You will eventually quit. Everyone will. Doesn't matter. If we can make the game better and allow people to enjoy the game even for a week longer, then it seems like a win to me.

    And even the notion that "player who will quit at 100-120 will just quit at 120+ even with the change" doesn't even make any logical sense. This isn't a black and white, on/off issue. People have a patience meter to grind through to 120 or whatever. If we can make that grind experience better, even partially at 100-120, then some people will be able to stick out through rest of it. Yes some will still quit, but hopefully they will have a more fun time having options during their stay in MapleLegends.
     
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    PQ's take a lot of work to get into, and are really fun, and build connections with other players. For these reasons alone I believe they should be buffed to become the best form of progression. Make em op op.
     
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    PQs are balanced in a server where monsters do not drop gachapon. I think that if what is going to happen in the upcoming event (PQ boxes from completing PQ that can yield maple items) is made a permanent feature, PQ might be more balanced in terms of the reward to effort ratio versus grinding monsters.
     
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    staffs ego system is huge, they just ignore your post, so beat it?
     
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    pq rework is slowly coming, so they're not ignoring it :)

    the recent epq change was part of it too, for example.
     
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    I think buffing PQ exp, final reward or PQ item doesn't change anything. I have a strong idea that the only way to make PQs better is adding (for the ones without it) or buffing the PQ bonus, making them similar to a CWKPQ bonus, with balanced drops of course.

    If you remember, the staff already buffed PQ gears many times and it didn't change much. Actually, if they add really good items from PQs, people would be forced to PQ instead of grinding, which is essentially the same problem we have now, when people are forced to grind because it's way better than PQing.

    Adding better rewards on PQs would make people mule, that I believe should be avoided. And I personally don't think PQs give bad exp, except if you need to wait. In some cases, like on your first char (specially if you are thief or f/p), actually should be the best option to grind.

    This is the thread I posted some years ago and I really believe that's the way to go https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/make-pqs-better.43545/
     
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    Sorry if I'm reviving a old thread but maybe a PQ currency that gives better access to certain items/equips would be cool.
     
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    we already have social credit
     
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    I didn't know MapleLegends was Chinese
     
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    there is PQ rework coming soon (tm) so hopefully that will alleviate some PQ problems. Though I think there are some other things that are in priority? not sure.
     
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