@mapowner

Well, if it was an official feature which you start with @challenge. The GM's could suddenly tweak alot. A level difference cap could be put in. Such as that when there's more then 10 lvls difference when the people are below 120. The Challenge itself could not initiate.

It would be all up to the GM's what would matter and which not. (and it might get Mapowner Mules off maps)

 

Yeah well that post was all jokes and sarcasm.

But seriously... I'd say either just allow the ksing, or don't make it so the strongest players get all the control. When the strongest players get to continually hold a map simply by virtue of being stronger, it means they get the best training spots, but the weaker players are forced out. And by forced, I literally mean forced, because that's how @mapowner works. If they ask you to leave, you have to, or else they call the popo.

If we just allowed KSing but not harassment, that would mean a bishop or some other 4th job mage could stand in their little spot on the popular skele map, but they couldn't complain if there was someone on the lowest platform killing mobs (honestly they shouldn't be complaining though). It would also mean said bishop couldn't just follow that other person around and spam gen to try to make them go away. It also means if you and another player are competing to train on a map, you can't just call all your guildies to try to drive that other person away. Because the reason they are going to that map is to harass the other person, not to train.

But the problem is that even with @mapowner as it currently is, there are still people who act like immature brats, especially those that think they have the right to KS you on your map because "you are afk" even though you may be right there talking to them and killing mobs. The gms are swamped as it is... response time for the @gm command has never been great ever since July to be honest. With rampant KSing allowed, there will surely be more douchebagery, more complaints, and more reports backed up by ambiguous screenshots and a mountain of he-said-she-said.

So at the end of the day, I think it's just more simple and more fair to reduce the 10 minute time you hold a map while afk down to 1 or 2 minutes.

 

There's 0 logic to reducing the time for manpower if it exists already. GMS didn't have manpower and there would just be KS wars everywhere. Manpower exists SOLELY to protect the player WHO FOUND THE MAP EMPTY.

It's totally up to them what they want to do with it. If they want to dick around and not actually use the map for training, so be it. Not everyone feels the need to ppl2pass nor do they have any obligation to give up the map to someone who is desperate to do so. They're playing the game the way they want to.

Besides, the map owner time reduction won't help any of you who are looking for the time to be reduced. When I grind skeles with my gf and we wanna take a few minutes break to stretch, eat etc BUT we are gonna get back to the grind afterwards, we wouldn't want to just give the map away.

We can just as easily ask a friend or guild member who is free to come join our party and take over the map until we come back. Changing map owner time is t gonna help any of you who want it to change. It's wasted effort for GMs. They're better off bringing better updates and changes to the game.

 

I really disagree, because mapowner isn't supposed to be some feature that gives exclusive authority over a map to a person just because they got there first. It's there as a function to easily resolve disputes over who "owns" the map and protect from KSing. (which is ironic, huh, seeing as we were also just talking about allowing it?)

Whatever you decide to do with the map is certainly your perogative, but if you are just going to sit there afk 95% of the time, it's a huge waste and an insult to those that actually want to utilize the map.

Also, from a programmer's perspective, it's not a wasted effort on the GM's part. To change the timer from 10 minutes to 1 minute, all you have to do is literally only change like two numbers in section of code that handles the mapowner function.

 

Do you need 1 min to get food?

 

Irember 1 year ago we had some ks war in gms bera basically a cannoneer got 30 freinds and the other person got 10
It went on for hours we absolutly dont need that bs here even if its "the old times" the server cant have a vanilla server but a server without negatives.