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Nerf Ghost Ship/MP3, buff respective PQs

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by NexG, May 7, 2020.

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  1. NexG
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    There isn't a single place within the game that allows someone to get 30+ levels at the fastest rate AND gachapons for classes with multi-hit skills, therefore Ghost Ship (and probably MP3) is single-handedly the most broken map in the game currently.

    If you nerf the EXP rates (via slight decrease in spawn), to balance it with the average EPH or slightly lower than the respective PQ's, those PQ's may be revived and receive more participation.
     
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    Somehow, ghost ship has escaped unscathed throughout the years from the nerf hammer.
     
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    Ghost ship isn't particularly good for any class except clerics really. FoG is generally better and Windraiders are a LOT better. Y'all need to go out more.
     
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    :eek:
    I used to get 40k exp/min as an IL at GS versus 25k/min at windraiders on FP similar level.
    Purely anecdotal, though.
     
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    CDs is also a map that's super optimal exp for like 30+ levels. I did 72-105 at CDs - think they should nerf that too?
     
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    Stairs should be removed from GS, fight me afk clerics. SlimeSmile
     
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    True, maybe saying this to be the only map for 30+ levels is incorrect, but the point is because of GS, Clerics and Priests get an edge up on all other classes.
     
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    By that logic, we should nerf msia and shaolin mobs exp because archmages have an edge on us when grinding from 12X-200 which is 70+ levels.

    NO CHANGES
     
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    I vote remove stairs at gs2 so ppl can't afk level.

    MP3 should not be nerfed it is really good map design that brings lower level players together. We need more maps like this, imo.
     
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    I mean, you're comparing a class with mobbing skill and a class without. That's real fair.

    The same character with same level, class and gears will not find GS2 to be better than windraiders, unless they're cleric/priest or low level I/L.
     
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    Lets nerf the whole game because people are leveling from 1 to 200 OMGGGGG
     
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    Ya'll need Mannequins in your life.
     
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    Well you did make a sweeping statement that FoG or wind raiders is A LOT better and that GS was only good for clerics.

    I am indifferent about nerfing or leaving it as it though.
     
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    Windraiders aren't even that good. The cheap speakers at Taipei 101 give comparable exp but have half the hp and the map is far tighter. It makes mores sense to train there than anywhere else.
     
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    There's no plans to nerf MP3, because it's probably one of the best designed maps. Afk grinding there pretty much sucks, and the map just becomes soooooo much better with party play that there's absolutely no reason to NOT do it. It's also anti-leech, since the map is too tall vertically.

    As for GS2, we've made lots of changes to make sure the other GS rooms are viable: GS1, GS3, GS5, GS6. The manne, CD, and FoG changes should all help alleviate the "OMG ITS UNPLAYABLE WITHOUT A GS2 MAP" mentality. If you have any suggestions for where else we COULD buff (the cheap speakers is a pretty good one imo), we'll definitely give it a consideration ;)
     
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    I hear gs3 has pretty good xp. Can even afk in that map!
     
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    buff roids sates homun
     
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    There needs to be better undead maps too so clerics aren't stuck in GS or MP3 for 30+ levels. Forest of Dead Tree maps and camp 1 are the best candidates in my opinion.
     
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    I agree with nerf gs maps remove the staircase so that fewer clerics bot there.
     
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    NiseNise I think a good place to buff could also be El Nath Wolf Territory (bottom level with all the White Fangs). It could actually be a good alternative given it gives the same EXP as GS. Just the bottom level (for FP mages it worked extra well).

    FoG was a great choice and seemed to work out well; perhaps also the PQ's?
     
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