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New players and meso asking.

Discussion in 'Community' started by Danna, Oct 4, 2018.

  1. Timan1
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    Lol, believe me that i have enough mesos and i don't need anyones money. when i started i never asked for shit, from none, i did it on my own.
    i'm here just to solve this problem, idc wether new people get "free stuff" or not, i have no interest in it. just to suggest a way to stop these stupid trade requests like most servers did
     
  2. Lionheart
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    There isn't a problem due to meso shortage among new players. There is a problem because they're ignorant, need to read some guides, and get some class.
     
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  3. Timan1
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    they won't do that doe.. you're here too since 2015 and its STILL the same bs everytime right? i agree that what they need to do is "THIS" but they're not doing it. and they wont. but then again, if any of you have a suggestion that is not "stupid" go ahead please.
     
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    For me personally, I just avoid FM ch1 or ch1 all together since the population has grown. I ocassionally get asked for mesos around Kerning PQ area, which I don't mind doing since you know they're actually attempting to play at least
     
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    Honestly, had a feature like that were to be implemented, I feel like just as same number of people would be asking for mesos as before. Part of the reason might be most people that asks for mesos (like when I first started) because they are not fully aware of ways they could earn money instead of just simply farming one.

    In addition, I'm afraid giving people mesos by a command will cause an inflation because it's mesos that are generated without any efforts at all. 100k might not be much for 1 character, but it quickly adds up as there are more people using one. Other people giving out, on the other hand, is a transfer of mesos so its effects are negligible.

    And to be completely honest, Im fairly confident that most people will hand out some mesos if a new player asks nicely. It's just that there are some people in the server acts like they are entitled to it, or take advantage of them.
     
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  6. fartsy
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    Increasing money supply does not have to lead to inflation.

    100k assumes all of it flows back into the economy. It's not really the case since NPCs eat out a large chunk of the money they earn (compared to established players). If recipients quit at the end of the first week, they would have already made much more than that from mesos/drops alone. Even if they quit forever, anything in their account becomes inaccessible anyways. It can't really be compared to gobi farming.
    But regarding retention, anything that keeps new players in the game, even if it's temporary, will benefit the rest of us. This is because new players generally "supply" the market and rich players (those who inflate the price of ws like crazy :mad: ) consist of the "demand".

    Generally, more players = more votes = more gach = more supply = lower prices

    Most of my leeches who were new a few months ago have also won some type of white/chaos scroll that they sold in the market, suggesting that those who won something pricey in gach had more of an incentive to stay on the server.

    Just my two cents
     
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  7. ePyro
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    Shout out to the guy that almost 1 year ago gave me a LPQ Red napoleon cape that i sold for 50k mesos,
    im pretty sure it would have been way more difficult without that pot money, where ever you are, i send you my love.
    On the other hand when i spare "supposedly" new people some mesos, 100k-200k and rigth after they keep spamming in fm asking for more i instantly swap to, "well at least this guy fake nib act got him some mesars in return" 10/10 would oscar.
     
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    Tbh, as what LionheartLionheart has mentioned, all new people need is information. Contrary to what people always say, legends probably isn't dying. I always see about 5 or more new character being made each day.

    Has anyone ever considered preventing the problem instead of curing it? Imo, a feature such as getting 100k off the bat isn't going to break the game by people creating multiple accounts but that amount of money is ultimately going to run out, it's not sustainable and they'll be back to begging for mesos.

    What could be done?
    If you truly wanna help out the new players, approach them before they become beggars, teach them how to earn mesos, how you shouldn't be buying armor, how they can get free pots from doing job quests.

    I don't expect everyone to do this, but over the past month I've been whispering people who have job advanced for first job and asking if they're new. If they are, meet them in the FM, give them a bit of pot money and tell them advice relatwd to their job.

    This is probably going to be more useful than giving new people 100k straight up through an in game function.

    Also, lf> donations, meso plz
     
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    Give me mesos please.
     
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    This isn't an issue...
    Honest noobs are OK. Greedy noobs are bad. Just remember what they say about teaching a man to fish.

    And when did this discussion take such a horrible turn? The server giving new players 100k meso to start is the most un-vanilla thing I've ever heard, and if they really wanted that much at level 15 they could just sell a fame (50-150k) or a smega/owl (500-800k).
     
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    Nah, have a gobi nerf instead
     
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    Sleepywood kill quests give white potions/mana elixirs, ATLEAST 600+ each
    -killing 99 green mushrooms
    -killing 99 horny mushrooms
    -killing 99 zombie mushrooms
    -killing 99 evil eyes

    the bonus of doing quests... 3x exp! you can easily hit 20-25 just killing a few
    other quests will give alot of pots as well as low level gear to npc.
     
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  14. Sloppy
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    Giving 100k mesos automatically two new players is pointless because it's already easy as hell to get some. Anyone with basic basic knowledge of GMS should have little to no problems starting a completely unfunded new character. Its not hard, it won't prevent people begging for mesos and is unecassary. Also I hate seeing servers do that. Also you're ridiculously rude for no reason over a ducken game son.
    And at OP if you don't want to give someone mesos who's begging you to, simply don't. Harassing You? Tell them to duck off and stop being a gucamole eating quack of a sad excuse gamer, or report them. But it is annoying I will agree. All these kids these days with their leech, skill mules, begging and stuff so much sighing.
     
  15. fartsy
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    I think they'll be more likely to. I don't think people really join the server with the intention on staying permanently. Especially not the ones who never knew the concept of "hp wash".
    skill changes, mob changes, and hunting gach tickets aren't really vanilla either. They can get more money elsewhere but you can't expect new players to immediately be a competent player in the market.
     
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    Instead of adding a feature to give 100k to new players, you can make an NPC on Lith Harbor that gives alot of untradable pots and equipments to start off, there could be a max level requirement of 30 to use it
     
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  17. Lionheart
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    Or we could just ask our newbies to take a stroll down our wonderful guides section and tell them to git gud.

    https://forum.maplelegends.com/inde...-guide-to-starting-out-and-making-money.7563/

    https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/newbie-meso-factory.7598/
     
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    There's a quest to get pots tho :O

    https://poof.ml/?p=quest&id=1046

    thats enough to help out for a few lvls ~
     
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  19. Sarina
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    Oh I already know that, but new players don't know that.
     
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    personally, i think alot of players know this. because most people talk to Biggs to get the fruit knife and the other quest unlocks
     

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