NPC to guild hall.

He means he wants it to be like the FM warp. You leave the map and you're back at your previous location.

 

The ride to Orbis was a HUGE deal in early Maple! Taking this out takes out a lot of the nostalgia and teamwork a lot of people crave when coming to a GMS-like server.

I can tell you right now that taking the requirement to ride to Orbis to make a guild will take a huge chunk of the Nostalgia people crave away. This also REQUIRES people who are making a guild to work together and cooperate. It's essential for a standing guild to have people you can rely on and trust. That party of 6 is the first step in a good guild. If you just grab a whole bunch of people together off the FM, port to Orbis in a single click to make a guild, you learn nothing from them and it falls apart.

Rog parties and getting to Orbis has to have the boat, obviously. But I think keeping the boat a requirement for guild creation is vital to the server.

As far as increasing slots in guild and creating an alliance, this is something a guild master agrees to the moment they click the "Create Guild."

This will also increase the number of guilds created by new members, stretching the thin number of members here so far. While having new guilds is GREAT, I don't think the server has enough people to spread if everyone wants to own a guild.

-1 for me =/

 

Why devout to a GMS-like server and ask for teleports? The Guild Hall is in Orbis. This is how the game was made in v62. Perhaps now in current GMS patches a teleport isn't a big deal because of how easy it is to get around, but I fail to see how a teleport to the guild hall is even necessary...

 

Increasing your guild's capacity isn't a nostalgic part of GMS. If you're a guild leader and you want to add someone to your guild, you have to commit to the action. If you're training in NLC, thats now two boat rides to expand, and two to get back to your training spot. Adding someone to your guild shouldn't be a project. If I want to add someone, I'll have to tell them: "Sorry, give me 45 minutes while I go expand my guild." The thing stopping people from making guilds, isn't the trip; Its the price. Using Horizon as an example, it has cost us over 50mil to bring it to its current state. Keep in mind, mesos aren't handed out to everyone. We've even had past threads trying to make it more difficult to get mesos.

Adding a slight convenience to the game isn't going to ruin it. The trip to orbis will still be around. It will be the same as the FM button.

 

Increasing the capacity, no, obviously not a nostalgic thing as much as it is a nuisance. Perhaps I don't see as much of an issue as others because I have never led a guild or cared to, but am simply part of one. It just seems like people keep wanting more things that cut corners to how the game used to be. (Etc the suggestions on things like more nx, nx rewards, more drop rates. I don't see this being much different from Duke's suggestion to be able to log off the Orbis ship and be ported to Orbis anyway or VIC vice versa. If small conveniences are added, they pile up and suddenly everything is convenient just like GMS has turned into now.

Don't get me wrong, this is only MY opinion. And like I said the fact that I've never really been all over the guild leadership side of this topic. I don't know the pain of having to do that first hand, and can only guess.

 

I support this!

http://nxcache.Neckson.net/spotlight/112/00BBj-f9f732fc-09cf-499c-bbbe-12e7462d9414.png

 

I'd prefer that this wasn't added, but I don't feel too strongly about it.

 

I feel this way too, the teleport will allow people to gather random level 10s and form a guild easily. While they still have to pay a price, currently every single member have to make the trip down to Orbis to form a guild. It's not just paying mesos to form a guild, but travelling to the sacred grounds together that makes it meaningful, and also difficult so that only serious people go with the leader to form one. As for expansions, you can either expand ahead of time, or simply ask the person to wait. If they are serious about joining, or if they applied on the forums, I'm sure they can wait a day or two. The next time you're not grinding you can spend half an hour or so moving to Orbis to get those expansions. Adding this tele would be similar to adding "Create Guild" and "Expand Guild" buttons, just like in the party interface. Furthermore, expansions only require the Guild Master to travel, think of it as part of his responsibilities as a Guild Master. Guild Master don't have much to do apart from that (nothing that appointable Jr's can't do). The entire process of travelling to form a guild and travelling to expand the guild (or add/change logos) are part of the potential commitments the Guild Master has to consider and be prepared to undergo before deciding to lead a guild.

"If it ain't broken, don't fix it." I don't see a major downside to the current system, it only requires people to wait and travel, which is an inconvenience present in other areas of the game (just like travelling to find the Buddy List Admin). So I too would prefer this not to be added.

 

It still makes emblem creation/change and alliance formation easier alongside guild expansion, which makes up more than half of what the Guild Masters have to physically do.

Nostalgia is rarely about what you choose to do, and more of what everyone has to do. An exaggerated example is a server that provides potential cubes and scrolls and still calls themselves nostalgic, because you can choose not to use them on your equipment. But it may not end up feeling the same since everyone else is OP while you're having a hard time. What ruins the nostalgia is often that everyone else does it.

And yes if this were implemented in the end, I would use it. I would much rather not have it in the game, but if this goes through I'm not going to avoid it because everyone would use it (so it doesn't help the nostalgic effect) and I would be wasting my own time, unless of course I feel like it. You could draw similar parallels to the Trade button. I think there are a couple of people totally against the idea of Trade button, but they don't stop themselves from using it since it's in the game. Same goes for my own views on leeching. I dislike that the game is designed to accommodate leeching, but I don't hate people who leech nor do I avoid it entirely myself, because Neckson made that decision and there's nothing much we can do except use it if we will, but given a choice I would rather have it removed from the game.

 

I'm 100% on this with Bulba. I'm one of those people that dislikes the trade button fm-teleport. However, I understand that a majority of the players probably love it and are okay with it. I use it because it's there, but if it wasn't I would complain either. And you're right, Aero. If it was implemented, I would use it. However, I'd prefer it not even get to that point. I believe I posted something similar earlier today bluntly, and I'll be blunt again. This is convenience, it's a crutch for people who want to change the old GMS because it's "too time consuming."

Once you hit that Create Guild button, you've devoted yourself to the annoyances of expanding and making alliances. Simple as that. I think that if you want to be a guild leader, and you're willing to sacrifice your training time for it, then you're a good guild leader. No, not even that! I won't even go that far because there are lower-populated guilds with FANTASTIC leaders that simply can't afford the upgrades sometimes. Make a Guild Account. Leave it in Orbis if you feel you have too much trouble making it from your training grounds to the Guild Hall.

 

Meh. I don't see Kim doing something like that. XD If she thinks it's good/bad for the server she'll accept/deny it respectfully. It might not be as big of a deal as I seem to be making it out to be. I tend to over think things. Either way, I do wish you luck on your suggestion. You wouldn't make a thread if it wasn't important to you.

 

Have a Guild Coordinator NPC only allow for guild spot increases and charge a 10% premium for using her services rather than going to Orbis keeping creation/emblem only in Orbis.