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Warrior Paladin Guide

Discussion in 'Jobs' started by SwordArt, Jun 27, 2017.

  1. Bobbykimchee
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    Damage aside, I also read that 1H pallies have a difficult time reaching somethings due to the limited range of blast (zakum's right arm, keeping out of BF's m. att triggering range, etc). I can't say that I've tried it myself, but I really am curious if the physical limitations of 1H seriously handicaps a pally's gameplay.
     
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    Don't even get me started on HT...
     
  3. Qanu
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    Does this mean, that as a 1h hammer warrior, you'll need to hp wash because of the range or does it simply makes it impossible to hit certain boss parts?
     
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    You won't need to wash - pretty sure Cam never did. The range itself is not an issue, but potting a lot might be. Regardless, washing is not a necessity for HT.

    IMO the only real reason you should wash on either Hero or Pally is to make pots more cost efficient and also start BF really early without worry of dying, as it will be your main EXP income. Other than that, I personally don't see (currently) any real requirement for those two kinds of warriors to wash.

    It's just kind of aids because stance is a lie (every 4th job warrior can quote me on this; they'll also tend to agree) and you have to be very close to HT heads in order to actually hit them if you are 1H anything as a Paladin. Brandish probably has a better shot at hitting because it has a vertical hitbox, even in the straightforward 1H version. Blast and Brandish, however, both share the same faulty range.
     
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    Selling this:

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    Anyone interested?
     
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    this isnt the fm
     
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  7. Qanu
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    Yo ThamosThamos , wrong thread bro... OnionWarning

    LibraryLibrary hmh I understand. I do like an in-depth comparison with 2h/1h and sword/BW end-game gear since Crushed skull mostly has around 10 more w.att than Stonetooth on clean + Crushed skull can be equipped with a shield. But having a broken "Stance" makes 1h-users already handicapped.
    I don't see potting alot as an issue, we got 60% hp pots and 100%/50% tend to drop alot from normal mobs too.
    yes Im a BW user so I have to deal with the 1H issues anyway LOL OnionYes
     
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    Sorry guys, just thought I'd try here because here is where pally's gather ^^ won't do it again
     
  9. Library
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    The 14 weapon att difference between skulls and STs are covered by the 1 AS difference and the fact that the ST is a sword. I honestly wouldn't say 1H (in general - either sword or BW) are any better than ST unless the shield is at least 25-30 attack (also assuming we're talking perfect weapons) and you have the standard 4-23 base dex (i.e. pure STR). The reason being that because STs scale well with apples and stoppers, but also because literally every scroll passed on a ST grants more value than one on a 1H because of said scaling, too (if you look at raw numbers, you'll realize how high attack end-game weapons are).

    1H users are hampered by several things in Legends specifically: the range of attack in animation for blast (and for mobbing, too, I guess), the fact that shields must be dark scrolled and that maple shields are generally unavailable, and for the obvious scaling differences in general. Also, because 1H in general just have about equal or lower att to the ST and the RK is the only end-game weapon with a faster AS, there aren't really many 1H sword that can even make a case for standing against the power of a good ST.

    Personally speaking, the greatest thing I can see about shields is the sexy Guardian skill, but that's not even added til maybe after or before Achilles at like 16x+ and only has an RNG chance to proc (15% at max)...
     
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    yeah but 1h swords are gangster and if you carry one around you can be a pimp daddy knight and shank fools who try and slap you with their big spiky baseball bat they call a sword
     
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    Should mention that blast is a stab so swords will have a higher hit than bw. (Swords have a higher modifier with stabs and maces have a higher modifier with swings; maces also have a lower low and higher high while swords have a more stable damage).

    On a personal note, as a bw pally I would've gone sword due to a potential higher damage on Blast
     
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  12. Qanu
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    Should be tested if the blast skill is just the stab animation or not though. From what I know it's just a stab animation rather than a actual stab.
     
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    I used to dev in other servers and in all cases Blast was a stab so unless the server files specifically changed this Blast is considered a stab. I can't really prove that this is how it works in Legends but it's most likely the case.
     
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    KimberlyKimberly Hi kim, sorry for dragging you in here, but can you confirm this please? It might be an issue regarding all BW paladins.
     
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    Blast does follow the 3:2 slash:stab ratio. If it was always a stab, BWs would be obsolete lol.
     
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  16. Library
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    Blast, like, Rufus and Qanu said, is really only a stab animation. Or at least it is so inherently; I don't know what servers you're talking about, but that shouldn't be the case here. If it is, then it's up to them to fix, otherwise Cam literally cucked himself.
     
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    I hope so too. I'm an all time bw pally before cam even decided to go bw. I think he fell in love with my now defunct Crushed Skull. RIP forever :(
     
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    You might be, but if Blast is really a "stab"-only in more than just animation, then Cam literally destroyed himself for no reason getting to his level with BWs.
     
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    Best Pally guide in the history of Maple. OnionCourage
     
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    Would like to ask if there are any good spots/ways for Pallies to make mesos!

    Am insanely poor right now
     

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