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POLL: Would you play a GROUP IRONMAN in ML???

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Skuire, Feb 9, 2024.

Would you play a GROUP IRONMAN in ML???

  1. I would probably play!

    61.3%
  2. I might play.

    16.1%
  3. I wouldn't play.

    22.6%
  1. Skuire
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    Skuire Nightshadow

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    Hey guys,

    Turns out, MapleLegends is still the best maple server around. Which is a shame, because the server in its current state is plagued by an incredibly stale and tiresome metagame fueled primarily by sunk-cost fallacy.

    But what if I told you there was a way out? What if I told you that, while we wait for Kimmy to come out of her long slumber and finally launch MapleLegends 2, we can design and play our very own ML2?

    Here's my idea for how I think we could make it happen: a group ironman.*


    Rules and Restrictions

    1. Everyone who plays creates a new account and new character(s).

    2. Any form of trading with players outside of the group ironman is FORBIDDEN. This includes trades, FM stalls, picking up drops, anything that would give you items/mesos that were not generated within our closed ecosystem is FORBIDDEN. We would pretty much be operating on the honor system, but since we're here to have fun (...right?), I don't think it would be much of an issue - look at osscocks.

    3. Partying with players outside of the group ironman is forbidden.

    4. Multiclient is either forbidden or discouraged, with some possible exceptions. This one is up in the air, but personally I think the game is a lot more fun when it's clear that everyone is an individual actor. Plus, many of the "issues" with the current game can be traced back to multiclient.


    Goals / Focus

    1. Experience MapleLegends as if it were the first time any group of people played the game. Work together as a group to progress and overcome challenges.

    2. Develop a community of players who genuinely enjoy the game. Help each other level up, farm items, and become stronger. Get to know new people and form new bonds.

    3. Go at a chill and reasonable pace without the game being a giant stupid race to see who can dump the most hours.

    4. Ideal player count: 12+ dedicated (pretty consistent?) players

    5. Play MapleLegends the way Kimmy intended!!


    * clarification: when I say 'ironman', i don't mean 'permadeath'


    Please let me know what you think, your feedback, and IF YOU WOULD BE INTERESTED IN PLAYING. If this captures enough interest, then I might create a serious thread.
     
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  2. LeonardoJF
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    I saw a very interesting topic about this on another server, it seems to work really well, following it here, note: I would play with the idea of gacha farming (I like the idea of having more than one useful character in the same account), but with the condition that I can pass ws/cs to my main
     
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    Prudence55 Stone Golem

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    Interested in this, as I've been thinking to start fresh and wanting to play a new class and gameplay mode with a different mindset of grind instead of self leeching myself in leech legends. ML+ new game+, I'd like to enforce single client only and restrict multi-client.
     
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    Endorphinss Pac Pinky

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    Personally don't see anything wrong with one-way trades, as long as it's stuff leaving the economy and not coming in.

    Thanks for the bump


    YOU MAY NOTICE that haters like """Gurk""" will """disagree""" with this thread as a form of pro-multiclient, pro-washing propaganda. He is a known troll, please ignore such users!
     
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  7. akashsky
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    Well, if osslock is anything to learn from, I am fairly certain that people will bend or break whatever rules you implement, as I am certain you won't be actively enforcing anything. That being said, I am interested in seeing how this plays out. I hope you are able to get a decent community to start this up. I think osslock is bland because of all the limitations, and it would be cool to see how far a group ironman can go with all of maplelegends features open for use.

    But, my expectations are not high, because sku does not have a strong track record for commiting to a single project before quitting for several months.
     
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    Ironman in mapleroyals before they removed mac support was some of the most fun i've had since OG pre-big bang maple.
     
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    +1 to osslock having too many limitations to be interesting. most of the 3rd jobs are pure ass.

    +1 to sku not having a strong track record for committing to a single project before quitting for several months. with all the solo stuff, i've struggled to maintain any lasting momentum. that said, when it comes to group projects, there's a hell of a lot more incentive to keep going. if there really is enough interest, i don't think it would be an issue, plus i wouldn't be the only one running the show.
     
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    Join the Ironman guild! We have this :yay: ign:Jonathan is the guild leader if you wanna message him!
     
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    With all due respect, it sounds pretty vague and I've never heard of your guild until now. My idea was for something more official, more accessible to the public, and easier to track.
     
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    I would 100% play a group Ironman
     
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    Part of me does wish Staff would look into possibly supporting modes like this or server-wide Seasons. Although players can self-enforce grassroots runs like this, it's impossible to get the required momentum for it to be sustainable without 'official' support and the runs will always be tainted by people bending/breaking the rules. It's not fun putting in effort into a project like this only for it to be soured by doubting suspicious behavior from others.

    I think actual support and enforcement server-side would go a long way towards keeping things fresh in the server, allowing for soft-reboots that don't split the server population or wipe current server progress, experimental changes that don't completely break the game, and larger scale Community Events.
     
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    I'd be interested in even taking it a step further with permadeath.

    Any character that dies must be deleted. A grace will be given in that their held items can be transferred to another ironman member before being deleted, allowing inheritance of fallen character's gear.

    Would be cool to have tagged items from a ghost player, it builds legacy.

    EDIT:

    Or maybe ironman characters who have died could just transfer their items to a live ironman member, and then be exiled from the ironman challenge and have to join the normies in the rest of the maple world. Make it a real "the tribe has spoken" moment.
     
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    I would participate
     
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    I will join if islanders are made illegal and mapowner by people in the group can be disregarded.
     
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    I'd be interested in trying it out too!
     
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    Hey, I made a similar thread about this a few months ago but I didn't really get much support on the idea, what do you think?
    https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/make-osslock-rules-enforceable.51447/#post-350331
     
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    Right, that was the idea
     

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