Prevent GM buffs from being overwritten by normal buffs

geospiza · Jul 10, 2020

When the occasional GM buff rolls around, I have to be careful not to Hyper Body myself. When I hit the HB key out of habit, my buff overwrites the GM buff which has a significantly shorter timer. I've seen this happen in a party, too.

I'm not sure if this occurs with the other skills (bless, haste, etc), but it would be nice to modify GM buffs to have priority until the timer is less or equal to normal buff's timer.

geospiza · Jul 16, 2020

Today was full of socially distanced party grinding after I HB'ed right after GM buffs. Muscle memory is hard to beat.

Chew · Jul 16, 2020

I would just remove the skill from the keyboard. But yeah, that would be a nice change.

geospiza · Jul 16, 2020

It completely slipped my mind, but thankfully my party didn't catch it. They suggested the same thing of removing it from the keyboard. Definitely a good idea.

cakesogood · Jul 16, 2020

better to just change it but see you next year when it happens. just look at the number of suggestions here

Sympatic · Jul 16, 2020

+1

I have made this mistake so many times with HB and HS.

Annolis · Jul 17, 2020

I think the encoding hasn't been mastered yet. The buffs based on the amount of W.Att, M.Att, Accuracy, Avoid, Speed, and Jump can all have a "if x>y, then ignore y" but that's difficult to do with HB and HS because the only thing about them you can compare is the time they take to dissipate. If the coders can crack that one, then your suggestion should be integrated on the next restart.

Voxtagrams · Jul 17, 2020

geospiza said: ↑

When the occasional GM buff rolls around, I have to be careful not to Hyper Body myself. When I hit the HB key out of habit, my buff overwrites the GM buff which has a significantly shorter timer. I've seen this happen in a party, too.

I'm not sure if this occurs with the other skills (bless, haste, etc), but it would be nice to modify GM buffs to have priority until the timer is less or equal to normal buff's timer.
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You do know that highest buff doesn't get over written, in other words we weaker players have a set duration of a skill for example Player Haste gives a 200 second time frame while GM Haste gives a 30 minute time frame GM Haste being the highest duration buff it doesn't get over written.

Kimberly said: ↑

I feel this deserves a topic on its own since I am getting some confused people how suddenly buffs work differently.

Basically, last maintenance we made buff changes. One of them is a change that makes weaker buffs no longer overwrite stronger buffs. This is known in some servers as the 'Smart Buff System'

Example, if I eat an Onyx Apple, and then use Rage. Previously, I would lose all my attack from the apple. Now, you will keep the attack from the apple, because it's a stronger buff, and Rage is a weaker buff. You won't gain the attack from Rage, however, so it won't stack together. This also works if your party is using Rage while you have an apple.

Furthermore, Beholder was known to be killing attack buffs at later levels. Now that's no longer the case!

Demonstration videos.
Beholder: Click me
Rage: Click me

We hope you'll enjoy the feature and for all the other information we've added on this big maintenance please click here
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Sauce: https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/new-feature-smart-buff-system.24503/

If you're experiencing a buff getting over written it should be a bug then, because if I HS myself or use Haste on my Assassin the GM buff doesn't go away, its still there.

Porkupine · Jul 17, 2020

If you read the next few posts in that thread, you'll see Shot explaining why regular HB overwrites GM HB:

"Reminder that any buffs that do not affect your primary stat (weapon attack, magic attack, defense, speed, etc...) is not affected by this change, which means which ever skill you recently cast gets applied instead (ex. you casting hb on top of gm hb will cancel out the gm buff, giving you a regular time for hb instead)"

I think GM Haste is preserved since it's a speed stat buff but HB and HS can get overwritten. It would be nice if they got the same treatment. For now, all we can do is remember to unbind and hope this gets implemented one day.

Voxtagrams · Jul 17, 2020

Porkupine said: ↑

If you read the next few posts in that thread, you'll see Shot explaining why regular HB overwrites GM HB:

"Reminder that any buffs that do not affect your primary stat (weapon attack, magic attack, defense, speed, etc...) is not affected by this change, which means which ever skill you recently cast gets applied instead (ex. you casting hb on top of gm hb will cancel out the gm buff, giving you a regular time for hb instead)"

I think GM Haste is preserved since it's a speed stat buff but HB and HS can get overwritten. It would be nice if they got the same treatment. For now, all we can do is remember to unbind and hope this gets implemented one day.
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Hmm, I'm not sure why mine doesn't get over written.. but alright
Thanks for that info on that I only read the OP comment

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