Reduce prestige shop prices

why do we use a base 10 number system?

 

If price for cs too high, maybe coin price go down

Self balancing economy wahoo

 

The price of coins doesn’t affect how long it takes for a single player to generate 100 coins from daily bosses. How long should a player expect to play to get a single CS/WS scroll from coin generation alone?

 

it's true that the value of chaos was just under the value of ws on the introduction of coins.
Coins inherited market value of white scroll causing some disruption in an idea of fairness. but does that price disparity would remain the same today compared to 3 years ago assuming coins where never introduced ?
People still chaos capes, Face Stomper got introduced adding more demand for CS on a different gear slot.

a handful of player are geared to the point chaosing stat gear is a cheaper upgrade on average than seeking a single weapon attack upgrade.

maybe tying CS and WS to the same medium was a long term blessing handed by staff.

 

People are spending 10's of thousands of coins to gain like 3-5 stat higher than just settling on an average equip. If you can't afford things like chaosing/white scrolling look into ways to improve your meso/hour in a way that you like. Some people just farm ML5, some sell leech etc, just find what works for you and log hours

 

I would consider CS and WS being powerful end game scrolls. Value wise I think CS is more valuable mainly because anyone can try their luck with CS and possibly make it big. It's basically a gambling scroll. "Spend big, Win big" kind of motto. WS on the other hand is a protection scroll to secure scrolling a perfect equip. Value wise WS feels kind of bad but if it's a perfect weapon or equip they're trying to make that's part of the process of making it. Chao/Eph/Rav/Pap is for 120-160 which is still early/mid game so they shouldn't be thinking about doing a WS project since there are more efficient ways to upgrade their gear. People who are doing a WS project generally have access to higher level content that yield more coins than the above mentioned. It still takes time but I think it's fair. Perfect items are a huge goal so it shouldn't be easy to get.

 

the two best way to obtain coins is to trade or buy from shop, via exchange of good for services.

the lesser way is to do content.

 

i'll throw in some assumption numbers here, based on my experiences of course.

my first 4th job character - bishop playthrough, took ~100hours to reach lvl 120 (~1 month+)
through selling leech, it generates ~5/6c per hour

i've also tried solo farming on pally, which generates ~3/5c per hour

so let's take pally as example, it'll take 1,000 hours to generate 3,000-5,000 pcoins (which sadly couldn't afford a perf NT 2h sword as of right now, but should be able to afford other perf weapons like claw, knuckles, whatever...)

say if i play 2-3hours daily, it'll take somewhere between 1-1.5 years to get a perf weapon
it'll take ~0.5 year to get a wa10 cape
it'll take ~1.5 months to get wa14 glove

not sure if these duration are 'whack', but personally it seems rather reasonable considering we're playing a pre big bang maplestory server

on top of that, all these gears mentioned above, i wouldn't even consider as 'mandatory' to reach lvl200 or participate in contents (other than few like pb, 6men HT, 3/4men cwkpq...that relies on dpm), more for personal dpm achievements

ws/cs should be somewhat challenging to obtain, so let's say if ws/cs price reduce to 90c (90%), assuming flat direct translate to duration discount (90%)
it'll take ~11-16 months to get a perf weapon
it'll take ~5months to get a wa10 cape
it'll take ~40days to get wa14 glove

these duration discount is not even considering the effect of compounding

is ws/cs priced at 90c reasonable? or everyone should get a perf weapon within 1 month (drop ws/cs price to 10c)? what do OP think is the 'ideal' ws/cs price should be?

my point is, more clarification and constructive feedbacks would be appreciated, i guess

 

I completely agree. If i spend a whole week playing this game from 2000, I should see myself climbing to the end game ladders. It's not that deep - if games are meant to be played for a week and move on, during that week I'm entitled to throw some CS and WS.

I'd go as far as to say CS/WS should be a HHG1 drop, to really be able to immerse oneself in the endgame experience early on to see if even playing a week is worth it. In addition, since 100% att scrolls are 70k from NPCs and they work 100% of the time, CS, which is only 60%, should be worth 60/100*70000 = 42000 mesos from prestige shop. Stop trying to gaslight us that somehow they're worth more.

Again, not that deep guys.

 

lower the coin to ws/cs conversion cost to 5m

 

The prestige shop owners charge 100c and 10m because they see other people selling service for 93c.

 

hey man not that deep

 

If people are willing to spend the hours on this server then the progression curve is perfect

 

The term "end game" is used for a reason; if everyone gets things easily, it makes no sense.

 

Sound like a lot is expected for a x1 droprate server. The players adopted strategies to deal with that.

 

Chaos and white scroll have different purposes. To call white scroll "100% success" is flawed, as it doesn't add stats but rather protects slots. I can understand wanting to look at which could be considered "more valuable" but that can be subjective to each player.

In terms of character progression and wanting to chaos and white scroll as soon as possible, there are other servers with higher drop/meso rates with inflated economies that would fit that desire.