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Remove\Increase the limit of 3 per bag slot for ciders

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by TobiTheGreat, Aug 30, 2024.

  1. TobiTheGreat
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    TobiTheGreat Orange Mushroom

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    I see no reason to have a limit of 3 on ciders when every other dmg potion in the game has no cap. It would make life so much more worth living :cry:
    Considering how limited the size of the USE tab is, 10% of my bag is just ciders.
     
    • Agree Agree x 10
  2. WackyWarlock
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    WackyWarlock Mr. Anchor

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    It used to be worse (1 per slot) :p.

    I think people's argument against increasing the limit is that it invalidates rage buff and makes other att pot not worth
     
  3. Kirisame
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    It could be 100k per bottle if the stack limit gets increased.
     
    • Disagree Disagree x 2
  4. Subterlabor
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    Subterlabor Zakum

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    rage is already useless for most of the classes
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  5. Gurk
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    Gurk Skelegon

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    It's worse than useless, it's an active act of griefing because those damn heroes never manage to consistently rage you (just like NLs with haste in HT) and you don't realize you don't have rage until who knows how much time has passed and then you gotta lower your dpm efficiency by typing in chat to ask for rage, or alternatively throw up your hands and pop a cider just for it to conveniently get overridden a moment later. Doesn't help that its range is ass too.
     
    Last edited: Aug 31, 2024
    • Agree Agree x 8
  6. Subterlabor
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    Subterlabor Zakum

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    Reminds me of bless in HT

    -uses archer elixir +20 avoid
    -Bish over rides with bless
    -gets dispelled right away
    -20 avoid
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  7. Nightz
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    Nightz Supervisor Staff Member Supervisor Game Moderator

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    A sensible bishop would leave bless at 19 so it doesn't override archer elixir
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  8. Soblet
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    Soblet Zakum

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    And a sensible hero would leave their rage at 19 att.
     
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  9. WackyWarlock
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    WackyWarlock Mr. Anchor

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    maybe skills shouldn't override potions with same effect? o:
     
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    Sinisters Orange Mushroom

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    Tarnished Mr. Anchor

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    If there were any concern about not invalidating Rage, Cider among many many attack pots shouldn’t exist to begin with
     
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  13. Milkydoor
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    cider should -500 accuracy instead and be impossible to override, i doubt anybody here could shoot a bow drunk
     
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  14. Juneriffic56
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    In a perfect world cider would be stackable to 100 and Rage would be reworked into a skill that's independent from potion attack buffs (like echo)

    But alas...
     
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  15. Subterlabor
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    Subterlabor Zakum

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    I think 21 att and longer duration would be nice for heros, duration so it doesnt impact QoL but its still kind of meme with your skill (the one that does 26 w.att like BM's concentrate)
     
  16. Socollocos
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    Cider's stack limitation undermines archers and NLs, because those two classes need storage slots for arrows and stars. One slot is equal to 5000 diamond arrows for BM.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1

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