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Remove NLC Pots

Discussion in 'Rejected' started by Lionheart, Jul 2, 2015.

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  1. KurayamiLove
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    No please,Im not a op bishop why should me and the rest of the job pay for this?
     
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    Would not affect anyone more/less if the pots got removed right ?
    so i don`t see how increasing the prices would be any different
     
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    The answer is just leave mages alone :confused: no more nerfs no more crap this is old ms and we like it how it was
     
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    While I love small (ish) and classic servers, I get nervous with threads like this. While I do want people to have a voice and make change to what they want, or at least try, threads like this that will make effect my maple life massively, as well as others, really make me feel iffy. I hope we don't change too much from the original experience.
     
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    this would pretty much kill mages... reason has been explained by numerous ppl
     
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    I just want to point out, mages are doing quite well. They dominate the rankings and can get money and farm stuff easier than most other classes. At least, that's what everyone else tells me when we suggest adding gash items to mobs. So I'd bet if we took away their discount potions, they'd still do fine.

    Also, we don't have to remove or nerf ALL the things in NLC. Like, if we just want to target the %heal of MP, we can just change the mana bull, ginseng root, and ginger ales.
     
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    It's so ignorant to assume all mages have it well. Dear god.
     
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    What you're saying is pretty one sided tho... aren't you going to mention the current pot drain mages face as well as the fact that they are terrible at bosses (one of the best ways to make money)?

    Sure there are many mages on the highscores and they are better at farming, but you have to understand every class is different. They all have their unique selling point. You can't compare apples to oranges.
     
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    The rankings clearly prove my point by a landslide. OnionListen

    If we want to talk about ignorance, it's ignoring what's blatantly right in front of your face. Sure mate, there are some people that aren't doing well. I'm 100% sure that it's their faults though. Either they don't know how to manage their items or mesos, train way too aggressively, or.. simply don't know enough about the game and what they probably should be doing. That or just pisspoor decision making. Should I 30% my +6 weapon I heavily rely on and would be screwed without? Sure! Then it blows up and it's time to make a thread on the forums whining that we need to make this item easier to get from gash... Kappa

    There's tons of quests out there that give nice supplies of potions and scrolls to sell. Then you do LPQ, LMPQ, you get a huge stockpile of items you can use or sell to other players. There's lots of ways to be successful in this game. And if you're not, sorry, but you're doing something wrong.


    One-sided? How? Currently there is no pot drain because the NLC pots are ridiculously cheap. Also, you want to talk about bosses.. have you considered that bossing ends up becoming a way for most of these other "bossing classes" to level up? We've had Anego, Crow, Headless, Bigfoot, and everything else available for a while now. Still it doesn't seem like any of the others will catch up any time soon.

    To say mages are terrible at bossing is an exaggeration though. If we want to talk about one-sided arguments. So in 4th job, mages have a really good skill that hits 15 mobs at once, and generally, other skills that aren't stellar single-target DPS compared to say, dexless nightlords hitting 6x with triple throw + shadow partner. But I'd say just because you have like 75% of the DPS of another "bossing class" it doesn't make you terrible.
     
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    It's so infuriating that you want to ruin the game for all mages because of the top ranking players. Also when will you be happy? When mages sink 6 mil into potting while other sink less, and when mages don't own the leader boards anymore? What is it that you want? A gold hole? Mage nerf? I don't understand. A mage having to pay 6 mil for pots hourly who doesn't sell leech is ridiculous and honestly just really upsets me that you would want to do this to them/us.
     
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    LMPQ? OnionSpit No one does that anymore, I'd understand if you said OPQ.
     
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    Potion already cost way too much mesos on 1x drop, im a lvl 112 priest and i have to still go farm mesos at GS2(Ghost ships 2), himing cost almost as much as buying leech for 4m hour, i should not need to still be going at low lvl spot to make mesos because i dont have enough mesos to grind at the right place until i reach lvl 120, so if they make the price even higher that would make no sense, Mage/Bishop class is pretty weak into boss fighting, their only advantage is that they can actualy sell leech and clear mobs map pretty fast, so in my opinion its an extremely bad idea, i understand what your saying but the potion cost already way too much until you reach lvl 120+ as a mage/bishop so its even worst for other classes that reached an high lvl. The server is also already 3 month and half old so if they increase price now it will be unfair to every single new player on the server, its too late to come up with a such idea even if it would have been a good one.
     
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    I'm kinda surprised no one does LMPQ anymore...it's still good for 51-55 or something. I mean its fast exp OnionXD
     
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    Highlvls where able to train efficiently before nlc update in gms. So any comment about it not being worth it is false.
    All removing these Pots would do is remove mesos from the economy but mostly from Mages, with I'm fine with as a Priest.
    I'd like to see this happen.
     
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    everyone talks about mages and noone takes into consideration that a warrior gets hit for 3k at skeles prob each 2 secs... make the math to see how much that would cost w/o nlc pots
     
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    ...But I love NLC's potions. ;_;
     
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    The next person making a very sarcastic or insulting comment in attempts to be funny gets a 3 day ban from the forums.

    Getting to 10+ deleted posts after 2 staff warnings and still on-going is ridiculous. If you want contribute in disagreeing, be mature and provide valid statements, so we can see you don't want this happening. The more mature your post is the more your opinion is taken, by everyone.
     
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    Hey i just found out about this going on and i was shocked because im a fighter with no rage (as most warriors if not all), im using warrior elixirs and if they are removed.. well its like wiping out all fighters/crusaders/heroes
    I think this is valid enough to stop this madness :O correct me if i am mistaken...
     
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    Theres are other attack potions, your are wrong, I just corrected you.
     
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    there are no other potions that give 10 or more attack that you can buy from npc, so im not wrong.. you are
     
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