Remove NLC Pots

I heard from many people saying they are trying to remove the potions from nlc, so i concluded all potions you cant rly blame me for that.. Well as long as the warrior elixirs are not removed the damage will not be that great for warriors BUT there will still be damage.. from what i understand you guys have a problem with clerics in general? So why not focusing in cleric class instead of all classes? Just saying...

 

There are though, you are wrong.

 

Where? Can you be more specific? I must be dumb. Enlighten me pls!

 

Ciders are a 1 on a stack consumables which give like 16 w.att for... 6 minutes. If I remember correctly. They're better then warrior elixer, however since each Cider takes up 1 Use slot. Not used as often.

 

Also less acc o.o mabe not good for warriors

 

guys please shut up about attack pots. this thread was made to mainly address the mp recovery because of mage ultimates.

i swear to god the bickering over stupid shit and stupidity in this thread is overwhelming

also, to everyone crying about trolling and stupid replies, its a pretty simple cause and effect. stupid questions get stupid answers. this whole thread is silly. logic incoming..


1) removing or increasing the price of the pots in question would only encourage the leeching style of play that most people who support this idea are against. instead of being able to freely train with friends, mages will almost be required to charge for their ultimates since they will be spending much more meso than normal. lets be honest, no one will stop using mage ultimates.

2) the argument that this "makes the game harder" is just plain moronic. maplestory has never, EVER been a "hard" game. it's always been about how much time you can pour into it, and in GMS's case, how much money. increasing meso cost is not making anything "harder", just changing a few numbers in an otherwise unchanged gameplay.

3) maybe you should look at REWARDING party play, or non-leech play, instead of trying to punish the leechers/leechees. how about suggesting increased spawn based on active party memebers in the map, or maybe increasing bonus exp rewards for active members?

my god this thread is full of cancer.

 

Um

 

This is not true, i was playing Mardia when NLC came out and there was no 4th job yet since i was still grinding at voodoo back then at lvl 80 and the 4th job only came out when i was around lvl 95 on that server, so if NLC came out just before they release 4th job we can easily tell why they did released those potion. Removing NLC or NLC pot without removing 4th job too would not be GMS like at all.

 

Just for reference according to http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStory-Guide-What-Came-When-in-GMS-283.html
He is correct, NLC came out on patch .40 and 4th job came out on patch .49.

 

People talking about things without even having accurate information. Pls.

 

I stand corrected then. It would seem 4th job was made around these Pots being avaible. This has changed my mind, I think they should stay.

 

No matter how stupid a thread may seem to you, please reply intelligently. You don't sound any smarter than the OP if you make sarcastic remarks or posts that lack analysis. If you child asked you stupid questions, would you do the same to him/her as what you post on forums? Write posts like the ones you just did, and not like the ones that had to be deleted.

To everyone else: This mentality is what makes forums (and people) so toxic at times. Please, it's not that hard to keep the forums a condusive discussion platform where people are not afraid to voice their opinions. Just don't be an asshole. If you find that something is silly, ask yourself why it is silly, then spell it out for the people to read rather than make insulting posts that doesn't enlighten or convince your opposition on why their ideas don't work.

 

was my reply not intelligent? or just this segment you quoted?

i was not trying to sound "smarter" than anyone and my post didnt lack analysis. not sure why all of a sudden you think its an intelligence competition.

depending on the age of the child, yes. if there are any 5 year olds posting here i apologize for calling you silly. anyone older than 5, you should be ashamed.

so are you encouraging my post, or discouraging it? i am confused.

or what makes people toxic is suggestions to change things that dont need to be changed, or constant suggestions that aren't great but are entertained anyway. how many people/how many times do we have to say that something is a bad idea or not useful or just plain silly before it is downvoted enough to be closed/deleted? maybe you should put your incredible intelligence into creating this feature for our wonderful forums.

this is an opinion, some would argue that the constant "nerf" requests qualify as such.

i find your post silly. its not helpful, it didnt add anything to the discussion, and it contradicts itself. also, this discussion has gone on far too long to be anything more than a flame war.

 

Removing NLC pot would probably make thing even harder than they would have been on GMS without NLC.
I remember back then, before NLC came out, mp pot was expensive, so high lvl mage just went on Ludi PQ and spamming to buy elixir/power elixir. It would cost time and effort, but you would save alot of mesos compare to buying them in shop.
With a low population, the supply in elixir/power elixir is just not there.

Lionheart, I can see your point that it would reduce inflation, but I look at the big picture(base on my impression) and I don't think it would really make such a difference in inflation on the mid/long term. One of those impression is mid/long term, you will have access to better scrolled equip for cheaper.

If we change the price of those pot as you ask what is the befinit for this server on short/mid/long term?
At the moment, as I saw Maple in a mage way, what you propose only seem to take thing aways from me and I don't see any benifit.

 

The second half of your post that listed logical reasons is the kind that I am encouraging, and not your previous posts that simply made sarcastic remarks. Threads are not an intelligence competition, but it doesn't help if people don't write posts with any attempt at substance or thought. Any suggestion may be toxic or stupid, but there's no need to add fuel to fire by responding with something stupid as well, all you need to do is be confident in your reasoning and lay them out for all to see. If the topic is a poorly thought out one, chances are most other people feel the same and a simple concrete rebuttal is enough to convince players and the staff of its impracticality, no need to go overboard and make the thread starter feel bad and risk putting yourself in a bad light as well. You can alternatively leave the topic alone and let someone else who bothers write a reply to it and like their post to show agreement.

Lionheart has put good effort into defending his stand calmly and properly instead of asking for changes without reasoning. He may or may not be right, but if you disagree, kindly show him due courtesy in responding in a proper manner.

Threads often drag on because of a lot of flame posts inserted in between, and threads are often closed to stop fights rather than closed after sufficient discussion has been carried out. The staff can think for themselves too, so what we want in addition is to hear the opinions (logical, not emotional) of players before we close threads. Keep in mind that winning an argument doesn't mean your ideas will be officially accepted. In any case, we can't take someone seriously if the person constantly hurls insults instead of debating properly.



Ultimately I feel our forum activity also reflects on us as a server-wide community. It's normal to feel that certain suggestions are bad, but the same kind are brought up in other servers and places as well. Wouldn't it be nice if we can distinguish ourselves from the rest by showing the public that we are a mature community who are able to respond to all kinds of suggestions in an appropriate and civil manner? That would leave a better impression on visitors and may just be the thing that entices them to join MapleLegends. I hope we can all work towards building a positive image of our community so that new and old players will feel that, apart from content and gameplay, this is the best place to be for other small reasons.