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Completed Scheduled Maintenance June 17th, 2016

Discussion in 'Maintenances' started by Poofcakes, Jun 17, 2016.

  1. Benizakura
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    Lol isn't this my suggestion about faming and defaming O.O Check my ban appeal in the maple>>>>>>>>>>>>>><Royals<<<.... Well anyways it's a good idea!
     
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    If you have a good suggestion for what CS item you'd like to be unisex, you can post it here: http://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/ask-for-new-cash-items-here.7418/

    It's not easy to do as it sounds though, so don't suggest a shitton of items. :p
    Might be, but I'm pretty sure we had already decided to make a change to the fame system before you even posted that haha. :D
     
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    I just want to point out that the fame/defame system was put in for a reason. It was a way the developers implemented that players could rate other players in a small way. A highly-respected and trustworthy player would have high fame, and a rude and untrustworthy person would have low or negative fame.

    BUT... this system was highly abusable. People can simply buy fame or mass fame themselves, and there is also the mass defame - possible even by a lone person who simply has a bunch of mules. So in the end, these numbers really didn't matter as much as the developers thought they would.

    Still, removing the defame is pretty ridiculous to me. I'm like.. "what? seriously?"

    No, it's not like I care that much. Over the year I've played, I probably only defamed like two people who I felt they deserved it for being jerks. And of course I knew defaming didn't accomplish anything anyway.

    The thing is, fame is only a number, and a number with very little meaning at that. Why even bother removing the ability to affect this number in a way the user does not want? Is that going to change anything? Will all people start acting nice toward each other? Will all drama and separation amongst groups cease to exist? No, it will not. If you were god and had all the power in the world, you could make it so two people arguing with each other could not use foul language or even raise their voice. That still would not make those two people like each other any better.

    So in conclusion, removing the fame/defame is a laughable waste of time.
     
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    Sadly not possible yet in v62. :(
     
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    Can you please explain why some items can be changed and others cant?
     
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    We have a lack of available item ID slots. For the 3 unisex items we've made we had to replace it with a new ID because gender checks (laughs) is not done by an item setting, but by an ID setting. So in other words, when we made some items unisex, we had to fully replace those items with a different ID, and we do not have enough ID's to do this for every item.

    Now you'll ask yourself: Why didn't they put the gender in the item info but hardcoded in the ID? Neckson. That's why.
     
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    Are GM characters subject to the same gender restrictions as regular characters?
     
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    Normally, yes. There's a 'gender 3' value which basically makes you unisex, but it has issues. Quests no longer detect your gender, you will always wear the female 'default' look, etc.
     
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    Can't get the patcher to work btw. I even downloaded the 3 .wz files and tried again. It's till broken. :(
     
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    I came to this thread 'cause my patcher isn't working properly so i'm downloading the installer and stuff.
    Then i read all the posts about defame. :x
    I think at the very least, default should be 'both' since that's.... how it works by default.
    If you wanna be a sissy and hide from defames then w/e. But still. Isn't there a cooldown on getting famed/defamed? Like 30 days? I don't see the problem tbh, but.
    I haven't been here long enough to witness what sort of player complaints led to this.
     
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    I think that cooldown only applies for being famed/defamed by the same character. So for mass defaming people will use mules.
     
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    I searched for a bit but I could not find what this change was (on maplelegends.com/rules), I most likely missed you explaining it somewhere in the OP, but could you maybe tell me (once more) what this small change is?


    Is it this?
    "Please do not pretend that you are someone whom you are not. "
     
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    Mass defaming rule has been removed and clarification on RWT (real-world trading).
     
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    Ehm this is what I currently see...
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    Thanks for explaining though!
     
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    Then the website version needs to be updated still. Thanks for the reminder.
     
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    Your welcome!
    Thanks for taking the time to listen&respond!
     
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    Just let them do whatever they want. We aren't the ones who can control what we want for our server anyways, but it's only up to them to make their own decisions.
     
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    It is just a statement, including an opinion. An opinion apperently shared by at least 19 people. "Just let them do whatever they want", if you look below my name, they want to know what we think. Of course they make the decisions, but if the policy created when creating the server is still valid, they also want to know what we think, and actually base their action opon that... So it is only good if a person indicated what he/she believes is going good and going wrong.
     
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