Selling Map!!

While I agree that it's extremely annoying when people are AFK-holding maps, and that certain places are extremely crowded, how about the instances where people only have a limited amount of time to play, so they smega to buy maps?
I've spent hours surfing for 5-6F maps, and I've seen people spend up to 4 hours looking for a map - while I agree that a lot can be done to help combat the crowding of these maps (nerfing 5-6F, adding more channels, looking at the flaws in @mapowner), I haven't come across anyone who was actually holding a channel hostage in order to sell the map. I think people spamming megaphones have made map selling to be a much much bigger deal than it actually is.

 

yes, make selling a map a bannable offense. it can be under griefing?

 

Selling leech I'm okay with, selling a map?

I thought this was MapleLegends(MapleStory) not real estate.

 

Give you a tip for your problem.
Just hoard like 6/8 chn for a substantial amount of time and watch the changes come in fast and fierce.
You just need to exploit it hard enough first...

 

Yes selling map is a very toxic thing to do, it’s worse than hoarding maps for training/leeching, it’s hoarding maps simply to make profit.

But instead of asking GMs to ban everything we dislike, I think we as a community should stand up to this kind of action by simply refusing to buy from the “map sellers”. Often these people are just going to log off anyway, and they are looking to make a quick buck while doing so. If you just camp out by the map for a while, they will go off eventually.

 

I think the whole map selling thing is a matter of perspective. Hoarding 1 channel and 8 channels are entirely different issues. Also on a different level of grieving, therefore would be treated accordingly by the GMs

 

Actually sometimes I try to buy map ownership, to save my time can be wasted for finding one If I think i'm in urgent and desperate. (and this is really effective if you offer 'proper' price for it, instead of 1~2m garbage price for your greed).

But personally, I'm against for just holding map only for selling ownership purpose. I think, if buyer wants, it's good to trade ownership because why not. you can save your time using $, and that's how economy works. but still....holding a map only to sell, should be restricted by somehow. (but I can't make any fine logic against such holding, since it's also a way of economy works. they spend their time, to make profit, like all of us do. just, difference of method.)

Idk what i'm saying tbh. neither agree, or disagree. just my 2 cents.

But first of all I hope to throw this question to all the debators : Do we have 'right' to judge and distribute many methods of making profit as good or bad, just because of what we feel? Since farming, leech selling, holding map to sell, all are eventually same - putting effort, to make profit.

 

Supporting it, should be ban able

 

I guess people sell maps because they don't want to sell leech because they're very "Shimshimhae, aigoo, nomo shimshimhae"

 

Although I wholeheartedly agree with map selling being ban-able (or at least given a form of punishment), the problem is not selling maps to other players. Instead, the problem is not being able to get maps in a fair exchange. People will work around it to where they're not "selling" the maps and rather just pawn it off to a buddy/guildy to hold for the time being.

Sadly, there may not be anything GMs can do regarding this issue. Only other options to prevent this is to either make other maps the new "metas" or just simply not feed into this behavior and make them eventually stop.

 

I actually have to agree with this - though this isn’t a “bannable offence” yet unless someone controls all the same map’s channels with mules.

Map selling to me is just a quick cash grab because eventually someone is gonna leave. Though if everyone who dislikes this practice, should outright not pay the map seller a meso, just like not paying a Scalper who bought PS5s

 

Personally, I would consider 1 of the following options.
1) Making "S> Map" a bannable offense.
2) Increase the number of channels.

My reason for the 1st option is to prevent the abuse of mules invading all channels to claim map ownership and selling it potentially for 10m (80m in total). Not to mention this also instincts fear to map sellers.

For the 2nd option, I feel like as much as the Admins/GMs would like to see the community come together and socialize, this only benefits people "socially" whereas people who are constantly grinding/leeching are in desperate need to surf channels when channels are full (This also applies to players with limited game time due to IRL stuff).

I hope Admins/GMs could possibly consider one of the following as this is something they have to consider. I value positive communities, but I also value hardworking progressive players.

 

Well something to consider is whether this behavior is enforceable by GMs. You can certainly just ban people smega'ing or chalk boarding "S> map", which gets rid of the most convenient way to sell maps (and the easiest to verify with ss).

Also the mechanism to sell maps is also pretty janky. Afaik, there's no failsafe method to transfer mapownership without it being snipe-able.

 

While I agree that it is bad manners to hold a map you aren't going to use just to sell it, I don't think making selling a map an offense is the best solution for a couple reasons.

• It's difficult to enforce and even if it wasn't it would take up valuable time from GMs.
• It can be viewed as being similar to selling any other service.
• The root problem lies with the mapowner system.

IMO the mapowner expire time should be reduced from 5 to 2-3 minutes. This will make holding a map just for the sake of holding it take too much effort to be worth doing without affecting the people that do actively use the map.

 

2-3 minutes isn't enough time to use the bathroom or get a quick snack, quick walk or even stretch a bit.

 

Which is when the next poor sod gets a chance to use the map...

 

I understand that, but I think they should just buff diverse maps that have similar exp curves.

Selling maps is horrible but lowering mapowner from a leech seller is just as bad too.

 

Agreed, or nerf the outliers on the higher end, or both.

I don't understand what you mean by this.

 

If they leave for a walk/food/bathroom break without knowing the timer is lowered, they have a chance to get sniped and get deemed a leech scammer, get reported and possibly banned.

EDIT: To clarify a bit more, some people don't use forums or even discord.