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Suggestion: hp rings / bossing rings

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by gurkha, Jul 24, 2017.

  1. gurkha
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    I suggest adding +max hp rings all level 135+ given as a reward for killing hard bosses a few times and untradeable.
    For example: after killing 5 zakum you get +200 hp ring.
    After killing 5 ht you get +500 hp..
    This can be an alternative solution to the ap resets issue. and helpfull to get enought ho for neo tokyo
     
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    That's kinda contradicts the purpose of this suggestion
    To fight Zakum you need more hp , then if you can't fight it how would you obtain the rings ? Like you cant even kill it once , how would you defeat it five times? .
    imo buffing hp scrolls is better and also has a counterpart ( less damage ) , rings will just make hp washers have an easier time reaching their goal = no real reason to add em
     
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    Zakum does like 3k damage max (unavoidable magic damage)

    Every class can fight zakum and survive WITHOUT hp washing if they level up enough (even NLs and Archers). With the above suggestion in mind, this would actually help people use zakum as a stepping stone to get the HP for horntail, and then use horntail as a stepping stone to get the HP for Neo city.

    This isn't to say that buffing HP scrolls isn't a better solution (this is actually the solution I prefer), but the suggestion OP gave doesn't contradict itself.
     
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    No class needs to wash to do Zakum (provided you're high levelled enough). Highest magic damage is around 3.1k.
     
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    Would also like to add this since we're already discussing alternatives to hp washing:
    I think something like this could be an excellent alternative to acquire extra hp. You could make it so the potions would require some sort of exchange quest that gave untradeable potions. For example level 30 could only make level 30 and below potions and level 150 could make level 150 and below potions.

    A level 50 potion could give 500 hp, a level 100 potion 1000 hp and so on. It wouldn't make washing worthless but more act as a compliment.

    It should also be stackable with HB as long as it's a +hp buff and not % based like hb is. At least that's why echo can stack with other attack pots/buffs.
     
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    I feel that HP potions are better since it acts as a meso sink and also allows non-hp washed characters to compete at stronger bosses against hp wash characters
     
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    You know what? lower the ap resets price i dont care
     
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    Wow you dropped your case quickly....
    But seriously though, +HP potions would help alot. No slots being used and solving the lack of HP problems at higher level content. But I don't mind to have bosses that can cancel those buffs just to beef up the stress factor if it's not already a thing.
     
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    This is the correct reply to be honest.
    Why are they costing 3.1k each?

    The price that they have right now just makes it unavailable for a person to play the game decently... Wanna play a ranged class? Ok, you gotta wash at least 200 times, that's about 620k NX, that'll take you ~110 days sire, see you back when you're able of getting that vote nx cashed in.

    Why not lower it to 2.5k? Or even 1k?
    So to make a person indulged of actually doing 1 LVL UP per day without hesitating much?

    I can see this being actually important for mages as well, as they're faster levelers, and being able to Power wash every day 4/5 APs from MP back to INT from MP Washing would be more doable.

    My own criteria was to do at least 2 Washes per LVL... that's 6.2k per level... so that's 2 days of voting, so why would I be playing the game if I don't have that vote cash ready for a new level?

    Before that idea I was doing a warrior and I wanted to aim for 30k HP clean.... but yeah, even if I had 160 INT, that's 4 washes per LVL, and I can't be arsed of doing less damage for a ton of levels that I grinded a fuck-ton of hours for...
    So that just takes me to the spin idea of... let's not play the game and come back when I have enough Vote Cash to actually wash it all off, and that just takes too long, making the game just boring because I can't play my char.

    With 4 washes per LVL... that's about 2.1 days when you have maximum Vote Cash from streaks ( 6k per day )
    Put in the idea that you're doing 50 levels like that... that means you have to wait 105 days to actually wash everything off.
     
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    That's because you are washing too rigidly or your HP goals are too high. Normal HP and MP washing is more than doable with current prices on AP resets. Even if you don't have the nx right now, you could just blood wash or just not wash now and work on banking up your mana and then hp wash later using AP from higher levels.

    We also have a valentine event going on right now where you can get more ap resets. If you do the exchange on 6 characters on the same account, you can get 3 ap resets per day just from that.
     
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    What would that exactly mean?

    Not washing on a Warrior is all wasted potential HP gains, it doesn't work the same way as Thief/Archer/Pirate washing.
    You loose a ton of potential HP by moving MP to HP, the only real way to HP Wash on Warriors is by doing AP into HP, and then wash out of MP.

    This reasoning makes me infuriate so much... Why would one waste over 4 hours to get all the etc. needed to complete the daily on 6 characters... every single day?
    I'm not sure of what you do in your life, because if that's what you're doing... then you're living a nice calm life.

    But in the situation that I, and surely many others are going through, playing is something we do to relief of our stress by playing a pixel game for 30 minutes or maybe an hour every 2/3 days.
    All of this because you can't even find the time to breathe in this shitty modern era.
     
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    1. You can put your fresh AP into HP at any point along your level progress, level 50, level 100 or even level 150.

    2. You are aware of the fact that the valentine etc is in FM right? You can literally just buy it. Nobody is asking you to spend 4 hours to farm it all yourself.

    Also the quest to exchange is level 8. It literally takes 10 minutes to make a level 8 character and get it off maple island.
     
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