Information Summer 2020 Balance Changes [Explained]

Happy the GMs are keeping paladin changes top of mind. Just FYI on the threaten argument. I referenced NISE’s paladin guide extensively and below are his thoughts on threaten.

Again, happy that GMs are looking into it, but please stop saying that “threaten is utility for Paladins”

Edit: I don’t want to draw anymore attention to this topic by crafting another comment but I want to be clear that Nise updated this guide as of May 2020; if there was a change of opinion, it would have been made. This is not a 2017 guide...

 

I only mentioned Threaten because there's so much wrong information about the skill in general. That includes information from a 2017 guide.

The same goes with explaining the role of cleave in HT.

None of it was actively a justification for current Paladins, rather a correction to a lot of the bad information in this thread. I apologize since I didn't make that clear from the get-go. The future of Paladins is still being discussed internally and it's not my place to say what is going to happen or even give my opinion on the matter publicly. Many of the toxic comments only serve to try and break my neutrality, but to those who continued the discussion by adding more nuanced points or by trying to be friendly you have my thanks and I appreciate your contributions.

 

I reply separately.
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"What happens when you're on left arm, your bishop dies to right arm double mass sed" you said.

That's mean you should take down right arm first to avoid double arm double mass sed. Stop hitting left arm. Move all chars to right side and take down right arm after 1st right arm mass sed happened. Also a question here. Why you stand at left arm?
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"your party is now shield-less and will-less for the next double mass sed from left arm?" you said.

I don't know is this correct or not :
This shield-less and will-less situation only happens after 3rd mass sed.
(1st mass sed, bishop shield and heal.
2nd mass sed, bishop will it and heal.
If you got TL in run, TL now.
So you can do 3rd + 4th mass sed like above.)
Please tell me if I'm wrong.

But I'm sure :
By adjusting cleave dmg, you can make both arm different HP to avoid both arm casting mass sed. For example, make right arm low HP first. If all attackers focus on right arm after right arm's 1st mass sed happen. Right arm will be very very low HP. Or just apple it to take down faster to protect your bishops.
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"What happens if your BM dies with the bishop?" you said.

If bishop still alive, BM should not die. Everyone will probably die if get mass sed and then 1/1 unless you're 6xx 7xx 8xx avoid thief. It is weird because you should make a plan and solve this problem ahead before the HT run.
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"What happens if your BM dies with the bishop? Your NL's DPM is now nerfed, and they aren't as tanky as your warriors. Can your party finish the run?" you said.

Take a pro-er BM or more bishops/buccs and do the method I said above. Or apple it if the team is weak.
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"Heroes are there too, but they deal less single target damage." you said.

Seriously.
Are you saying the hero you under-valued, which does only 0.3m less single target dpm (aka 3.8%) than a pally at Lv180?
8.2m - 7.9m = 0.3m
0.3m / 7.9m = 0.038 = 3.8%

In Statistics, p value < 0.05 is defined as “Insignificant".

 

Other suggestions:
Increase mastery for palis to 75% since with single line damage only they're the most negatively affected by wide damage range. This way you're not technically increasing their damage much, just their average damage.
Add a 10 att modifier to shield mastery since 1h is generally outclassed without investing an extreme amount of money into equips. This would help newer players.

 

Buffing holycharge is also an option to mitigate the the extreme loss in damage that pallies suffered, perhaps to 180-190% its up to balance team.
I hope change comes early, many pallies are suffering.

 

I feel like 180% would be too low as it would barely overtake fire charge. 190% sounds right and you'd likely have to buff ice charge to 135% so it's slightly less useless, especially compared to a buffed hc.

 

LOL!! shitting out of the hole

 

Forums is the toxic corner of ML but he's right about what it entailed. You obviously haven't been on the server long enough to have a clue to what you're saying.

 

I dont care what you say dude... SI were really useful for mages, after this new and "brilliant" balance the eph really suck (for example: 3-4 5-6shaolin) I wonder where GMs get those ideas or how they think sometimes

 

have you tried leveling up?

 

Leave the shaolin maps the way they are, so it actually requires effort to level.

 

a lot of sellers also advertise inflated EPH to attract unwary buyers, esp in shaolin

 

Pretty sure this was defined clearly as a scam in the other thread explaining the ToS. You can report people for underperforming if they advertise specific rates and don't compensate you.

 

i was the one who advertised 30-40m at 3-4 tree way and that’s accurate. 2 mages 188 plus SE and 1400 tma each. VViz and VVizard. Don’t accuse people without
knowing the actual fact