The Sushi Problem

TRUE

 

I agree. DKs are getting greased!

 

LOWER THE PRICE OF GODDAMN SUSHI

 

I agree it doesn’t make logical sense but it’s way better than where DK were at. We used to spend 5k mesos per reindeer milk which heal a staggering 5k hp and 0mp. Even at 3k per sushi it’s still a big win imo.

 

this so true :/

 

Agreed, DKs having to pay more for zerk pots that heal less than others is pretty scuffed. Cmon MapleLegends lets help out our friends who keep our squishy classes alive

 

A problem being less of a problem is still a problem

 

I agree! Lower the price of sushi! DK's deserve it for protecting us skinny folk.

 

All a matter of perspective I suppose. I fought for a long time to even get sushi added in the game so just to have them in an NPC was a huge win. Is it a problem that ginseng is cheaper than sushi and heals more? Sure I guess but it’s not something I’d fight to change tbh.

 

Although I can see where you're coming from, 3000 mesos for 20% hp/mp is a ridiculous price to pay for when you can easily buy something that heals for more for a lower price. Every class will buy the cheaper potions except DKs where they have to rely on Berzerk for full damage output. The discrimination of potion prices towards DKs is very unjust and something should be done about it.

 

I agree, make ginseng roots 6k and ginger ales to 9k. Power elixers should also be sold for 15k.

 

You will trigger some people who thinks they're the reason that sushi is now purchasable kekw
The price should get adjusted in my opinion.. we waste around like 5m+- for 2 standart horntail runs while not being one of "the top" dpm.

 

say dat

 

#FREESUSHI

 

are you trying to talk shit about pres? Just fucking @ him lmao or don’t talk shit about people

edit: dks have the highest cleave dpm tied with heros though. And why does dpm have to be correlated with hp pot cost?

 

The price was carefully considered for the health of the class. Making Sushi cheap would make DKs into a Hero clone with HB.

A lot of the hardline DKs enjoy the decision making and micromanagement that comes in managing berserk. It's a part of the class identity and that's something I believe should be accentuated in every class, to make them play and feel differently to one another. Classes come with positive characteristics while also having some drawbacks, and for DKs it comes in the form of getting HB while requiring either more attention or more money to play with the optimal DPM. Take away the drawback and you simply have a better Hero.

For Zakum I've just ended up standing inside the body rather than deal with stuns or seals, much like my Hero and Pally brethren. Inside I tend to use just ginseng roots with some sushi peppered in where I think it's needed.

The single target damage is pretty mediocre but at the same time in Horntail DKs outperform everyone other than Heroes and Arch Mages given a meta party comp, along with providing the best utility buff in the game. The cost isn't even that significant, an average HT will run me 1.8-1.9mil, and that's with using Sorcs over Mana Elixer Pills.

 

I don't think Heroes are in a great spot currently. They're just bland, pure damage braindead cleave, with their only benefit being slightly more damage than DKs without the difficulty of playing and a party buff that's replaced by NPC pots. If DKs had as easy of a time potting as they did, then there really wouldn't be much of a reason to make a Hero in the first place[Though even now I tend to notice more Paladins popping up than Heroes, so I'm starting to think many of the people that would have gone Hero in 2015-2018 Legends have shifted their gaze to the almighty Paladin...]

The costs associated with HT are actually quite similar to what other melee and some of the squishy ranged folks have to spend. The only big outliers are mages spending a ton and shads spending quite little, with their cousins the bishops and NLs being round where they are too. I only thought it was a bad position when gulping milk was the only option for maintaining zerk in most of the game. Generally I use roughly 120 Sushis per HT, which comes out to roughly 360k. At the same time, I tend to use around 500 sorcerer elixirs per run, which cost me 750k total, but if I wanted to I could probably reduce that to 350-400k with Mana Elixir Pills, but with them pet MP pot tends to fail more so I've been hesitant. It just isn't that significant of a cost when it's applied conservatively. Sushi wasn't brought in to replace Ginsengs but to replace Milk/Cheese for maintenance of HP, and their usage has been similar for me with how I play the game.

It's also worth noting that DKs tend to have some differing(But in my opinion better) damage reduction than Heroes/Paladins do, as physical damage is more situational than elemental damage in bossing situations. Power Guard helps when face-tanking, but even then it's at a reduced value vs. bosses(20% vs. 40%) while the DKs Elemental Resist reduces most spell based damage by 40%. People shouldn't underestimate the skill, lately it's become one of my favorites. :^)

 

I was looking forward to sushi and was happy to see sushi added.
Alas, I don’t use sushi at all because of its cost. I just use the milk I passively loot while hunting mobs for dragon elixir + milk donated to me by my guildmates.