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Thinking about returning after 4 years

Discussion in 'Introductions & Farewells' started by reeseko, Jun 5, 2024.

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    So according to the website I haven't played in about 4 years. It looks like I saved 2m vote points and was planning on working on an hp-washed Shadower. A few things:

    Is 2m vote cash enough to wash a DPS class? Which DPS class would be worth that investment?

    Would love to start playing again. I may have another account/character to work on securing some funds but I'm not actually sure what I have at this point.

    Thoughts? Any tips for a returner?

    I found the vote button.. I'm just blind.
     
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    welcome back, here is the better place to play MS

    yes, vote still a thing, you can use the modern "votelegends app"

    all thing about wash you can find on KrythanKrythan guides
     
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    Welcome back!

    Washing a Shadower is a commitment, but very rewarding when you're darn-near-un-killable. You can read more about the principles in my Night Lord guide, as formulas for thieves are the same.

    2m NX is definitely a great amount to start with. As while you level you can continue to vote and collect the remaining amount.

    Hang out, have a good time. If you wanna post what other characters / ideas you have, we can see if there's any guidance.
     
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    Wow! (Potentially) Welcome back!
     
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    Welcome back! A 60k HP shadower would indeed be a feat to behold
     
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    I did check out the guide and I just wanted to make sure that was to hit 30k HP by level 150 only.. Like I could aim for 30k HP by like.. 170-180 with less effort than you have spelled out right?
     
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    Unlike the melee classes, thieves don't get a lot of HP from levels. Accounting for the target HP at a higher level provides some marginal gains... 22 hp per level to to exact.

    ...so aiming for 30k at 180 instead of 150 would add 660 HP that you wouldn't need to wash for (22*30 levels = 660 HP)

    What makes a big difference, is carrying your Base INT for more levels, and Resetting Base INT at a higher level. For example, instead resetting your INT at 150, you could do so at level 160, or level 170 to save a decent amount of NX. However, this actually adds a tremendous amount of effort... as while you're saving NX, you're vastly increasing the time and mesos required to leech to such a level (as you'd still be carrying Base INT)
     
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    I don’t think 30k hp is gonna be for me.. Is there a target HP goal that does all content as a Shadower without HB? Like maybe 10k HP? I likely don’t have the funding for crazy int gear and spending another 2 years voting…
     
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    if you aim to create a shadower with 10k I would recommend creating a HP Challenge character (https://forum.maplelegends.com/inde...-challenges-system-hp-wash-alternative.51808/) instead washing (maybe create on other acc. and keep voting on your 2m nx account for washing other char after)
    Regarding the gear, you dont really need crazy int gear to wash your char. Of course it helps, but you can just increase your base int
     
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    Welcome back :)
     
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    Aside from the 10k base HP do you see any downsides to this as a Shadower? Eventually I'd like to be able to solo all of the soloable bosses and group for the big bosses.
     
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    There's little reason for a Shadower to aim for 10k, or lower. As that's the amount they'll be receiving from the HP Challenges (someday).

    Other popular thresholds include 15k, and 18,750 (that's 30k with HB). Though, I should not that might not save you as much NX as you might wish it would.

    I'm a huge proponent of the advice:
     
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    Seeing as you're sitting on 2m NX, which is absolutely fantastic, I want to call out a point here. You only need 2.7m NX by level 150 to have a playable Shadower that can reach 30k (someday). If you already have 2m, the rest you'll likely be able to get in the time it takes you to level to 150.

    To quote a previous comment on the subject:
     
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    I see. So either way before I can play Shadower I will need to prepare a few things. I saw a few guides that said you needed an HS/HB/MU mule. I do have a level 112 I/L somewhere, should I just start fresh with a Bishop while I continue to vote and farm to do leech for the mules/Shadower?
     
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    That works!

    The mage + attacker is a time tested strategy.

    Self-leech and selling leech is just so good if you have the appetite / energy to invest in it.

    Really just depends how hard to want to go.

    Many folks who are more casual are better off just focusing on one character.

    I'd also push the I/L to at least 120, as that opens up quite a few farming options. That's only like 60m of leech FYI.

    But if you want to go all in, you can never go wrong with a Bishop.

    The most common "meta" path is Bishop -> Attacker, then add on other characters such as an I/L mage and/or whatever mules you may need for your attacker.

    But an "off-meta" path is to make a HS Mule (level 81 priest) and a I/L for higher level leech and farming. You loose the ability to do great low level leech, but you get to the point of being able to do higher level leech and farm higher mobs much faster. ESPECIALLY if you already have a 112 I/L.
     
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    Downloading and logging in for the first time now.. Let's see what's on the I/L. Maybe I push that to 120 and leech the HS mule/rest of mules instead of making a Bishop. Is multi-boxing as easy as opening multiple clients?
     
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