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Not a Marksman player (or very good in this server), but I have to say that I massively prefer the first visual snipe option, the second one looks like a post BB wild hunter skill.

 

I am a very fresh Marksman, but wouldn't this change only affect those who do specific bosses? If you use PA and get the maximum effect from it, you have a few seconds to use Snipe to get it's maximum damage increased. In most cases, you'd end up using Snipe on the mobs you just used your PA on. A few seconds to shoot the PA to then relocate to use Snipe on a more desirable target sounds super situational.

 

anything on adjusting damage floors across classes or are we all getting buffs?

 

Have a 14x MM here, so I do not particularly have in-depth knowledge of MMs in general. I do have a couple suggestions/comments though based on my limited playing time on MM.

Firstly, pls get rid of this xD our chatbox is always flooded





Secondly, could you consider boosting crossbow speed such that MMs are not reliant on SI? Ok this is probably gonna be controversial but my main gripe is that currently in CWK, its almost impossible for MM to pin without SI. This makes BM the only viable Pirate pin class, which feels kinda unbalanced in that aspect. Of course if there is any other solution to this 'problem' I would be so happy to hear as well.


Also, Love the 2nd proposal animation, looks really cool. I hope it gets implemented!

 

Hello, former and retired Marskman player here

Just commenting to stay in the algorithm. Would like to propose that iron arrow (2nd job mobbing) can also be casted close range, though my guess for PA's proposal is d/t charging time huh

 

What do you think making snipe as a passive skill, like every 5 strafe will automatically make 1 of the arrow into snipe ?

 

Despite not seeming like something that will be useful in every boss, I enjoy the proposed changes to PA, very interesting.

Also of the Snipe visuals, most definitely option 1. Option 2 feels rather out of place and still not overly impactful.

 

There is already a fix to this. Go to your Legends.ini file and set this line to "true"

 

Great work! Personally I think the current animation is amazing and old school. The first proposal is OK, but the second is really too much for me! I think if the bug is fixed there shouldn’t be any further changes .. simple is good

 

give the poor mm self si

 

what if every 5 strafe you turn into a bowmaster

 

I am thinking.

 

I can't wait to cleave cwkpq with my 30k mm

 

Ohhh i had no idea about this. Thanks!

 

The QoL changes to PA look great!

PA is a widely unused skill currently, not being leveled until the late 16x's and only finding use in niche content. If I imagine MM becoming a cleave I imagine PA being used in BGA, CWK, JC, Auf, Sometimes in HT?, During Zak arms?

One massive problem I see with this (especially with PA not requiring range to cast) is MM potentially requiring a higher HP pool to deal with tanking hits from mobs. The current cleaves in the game all have high HP/Meso guard to mitigate this problem.

Also does this mean MM is no longer meant to be viewed as a single target DPS? I am actually ok with this in general but I am not sure that other MM players will feel the same...

And a suggestion I have in case we still want MM to be a ranged single target class, would it not make sense to just have snipe have a floor damage of 200k and then scale with range? Although casting PA to give damage cap release sounds great against multiple mobs, in a single target fight this sounds... unfeasible.

 

Wow sounds very interesting! Curious to hear the marksman players opinions.

What amount is that supposed to be? will we see 999 999 damage bonks? pog

>The skill charging can now also begin while in the air.
Note: if confirmed, this would likely be applied to other similar skills (eg. Big Bang, Hurricane).

Any hope to let us also charge corkscrew blow on rope? we can hold the charge if we start it before hopping on rope but cant start it on it.

 

I may be a bit challenged on the mental visualization front so it would be nice if we could also see the two currently proposed snipe animations (w/ the arrow bug fix) used in a real example.

The stance effect during charge-up for pierce is cute. I had long been wanting for a reason to weave pierce into the gameplay loop even under single target scenarios, e.g. some sort of short temporary damage buff after firing a fully charged pierce. This is something adjacent to that and can functionally act like a pseudo parry-lite of sorts against super KB attacks, which I reckon was the primary intention. Perhaps a bit more niche than I would have liked but PB big bang, HT preheads and legs/tail, and auf wing flap come to mind. Maybe even as a safety net against mavs in core if you aren't running with a paladin (why are you not running with a pally). As an added bonus, the stance would be great for climbing up ropes (e.g. statues and HT).

Being able to fire pierce at close range is certainly a nice touch though I'm unsure as to whether it would actually be worth using outside of grinding/farming in a bossing cleave situation with an otherwise optimal cleave composition (e.g. auf triplets or cwk cleave) over simply spamming eruption. If I recall correctly, even in a dummy situation the dpm dealt to the first target that pierce hits is less than that dealt by eruption.

The bonus effect of a fully charged cast seems curious. It seems designed to be utilized for single target bosses that feature mob summoning, e.g. PB body with mini beans. If the ads aren't cleared quickly enough, however, and depending on the duration of the buff, the powered-up snipe may end up being largely moot. I could see it being great for zak where a well-timed jump pierce single-handedly deletes the ads on spawn and at scar or targa. It could also pair well with a paladin at core body too, but ironically not so well with a strong hero/dk (alternatively, camping floor and spamming pierce once its teeming with guards could be both viable and amusing). It is also a bit jarring however as one might find themselves competing with other cleavers, e.g. with bishops in the zak scenario.

On another note, I would have personally liked to have seen a mention of Blind.

 

Boomer MM buying property on the first page so he can articulate thoughts after work.

 

a good start I would say