Information "User online count is everything" and GTOP flaws.

Honestly, while I do hate how every private server is trying to manipulate its ratings on GTOP. I think it strengthens the overall image of Legends more than if it didn't exist, being that we're low rate/ top 5 ranking. While every other server has these ridiculous amounts of rates and crazy custom mods that I guess some players really think is fun for a couple of months, our appeal is nostalgia to the core. You know at least the people playing here are playing for the challenge and community, which means a lot more than a number as a label.

 

Fuck GTOP, fuck user count, fuck people's opinion, fuck people's judgemental attitude
who gives a fuck
I give no fuck to almost literally everything

 

Let's not forget that this server gets popular when MapleRoyal disable registration for their server for an extensive amount of time. Many people moved here because they can not play on Royal. With Royal back online many people are moving back. People keep saying that during the summer the population for this server will broom again. No it will not. This server feels very stall to me and very unfriendly to causal players. The real Maple went down hill because Neckson changed/progressed the game way too fast. End game equipment can be outdated few months later and the power creep is way out of roof. But this server is barely progressing. After so many years the end game equipment are the exact same equipment from the very beginning of this server. Power creep a game too fast is bad for a game long term but no change for a game for the sake of "good old days" is also bad for the game. Yeah sure we added a few places from time to time but I do not think these are interesting enough. The stallness of this server definitely does not attract new players and for a game like this, number of players means a lot. Server with more players are just more fun to play because of the potential interactions. That's why they called Maple MMORPG "Massive Multiplayer". The recent added feature "the monster book" is kind of a joke. I mean yeah we had that on real Maple as well but most people who play this game probably know where the monsters are located and how much HP they have. As for the drops, people can just search that online. The only purpose of monster book is just a collection. Sorry that I can not offer any suggestion for improvements. But that is what I feel about this game.

 

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I too, feel like the server is becoming a stall :thinking:


In all seriousness, what statistical evidence do you have to back up anything you mentioned? Again, 'this is what i feel about the game' comes up. This is what you think, it is not necessarily the underlying cause or potentially not even a cause at all. If you cannot provide even the meagrest of insight or statistical evidence, why bring in another server into this discussion at all? It makes you look like a blatant trash talker.

 

I wouldn't worry about GTOP. Players that only care about player count will probably jump ship if they have any reason to think the server is dying. They'll move on to the next big thing, only to lose interest and move to the next. Kind of like certain players that always want a server wipe, they just want to compete for #1 rank, but they eventually get bored and move on. Players that only look at the first banner and top 3 servers may as well brand themselves lazy and judgmental.

These are not a good way of judging a server, to say the least. The server version and features are also very important things to look at, as well as how the staff and community seem. There is a very old saying everyone should know: Don't judge a book by its cover. If people can't even avoid doing that in the most extreme sense, it's their loss.

Maybe what you can do is branch out to other voting sites too, just because. I wouldn't spend money on them though.

 

User count is alot. a 20-40 player server is as good as dead. Way too empty and boring. This player base is the bare minimum for me, less is too low.

 

You are forgetting about another mechanic which encourages people to be online without playing the game that MapleLegends does have: Leeching

 

For me honestly it feels very hard to fit into the community as a casual player that used to play like 1 hour a day or maybe less, and i honestly just feel like an outcast the more i try to jump into the game , and it just feels like the old players do not want to open to newer players because they are already comfortable with the circle of people they are already with currently in the server and it just doesn't have that feel of nostalgia at all anymore

 

DISCLAIMER: THIS IS A BADLY FORMULATED POST, WRITTEN BY TEXT WITH LONG FAKE NAILS, A MALNOURISHED HEAD THAT JUST WOKE UP ./startrant

Its actually interesting you say that.. i have the same sentiments often and i guess im considered a "vet". Most of the people i did things with quit, i have a hard time feeling like i could fit in elsewhere now that i play less actively (similar to u, 1hr a day) w/ summer since i prefer being outdoors.

Unfortunately its hard to reward people for playing and not afking because there are so many aspects of the game outside of grinding. However, i know kim looked at this in a bad light but i do think its important to add atleast a little incentice since being lvl 200 isnt a big deal anymore, scrolling op items isnt a big deal any more and the hp washing situation isnt a challenge anymore. Rn we have hunting gach and MB which are amazing but only for those that actively grind for hourS at a time. The fm is dead, theres barely any socializing anymore which BREAKS MY HEART. Even smegaing now risks a ban even though you get multiple people whispering you their opinions or thoughts. I have some "borrowed" ideas from a server that reccently died that i think would be a fun addition if youre interested. Only issue is that its super custom.

I feel like there are less and less aspects of the game that bring people together lately (such as solo-events and certain decisions ie that monsterbook change that was thankfully reverted). Which makes the game leech city without any real alternatives. People dont want to PQ because it requires more effort than afking pressing gene, afk pressing hurricaine, etc.

The game is far from dead, and boosting social media again will help a lot (sorry i had to stop) l. However, if you wish to retain super active players it wont happen the way the server is now :/ Especially gaining new ones due to the issues mentioned in the first post.
theres nothing that forces people back rn:
-WS overused, quite a few perf weapons and soon to be BWG (lucyflower already has his, marisa is second)
-Ht is accomplished in <1.5hr frequently
-0 community aspect 0 fm communicaation, rare gm events (PEOPLE NOW NEED APPLE INCENTIVE TO GPQ???)

/endrant
This made 0 sense, youre welcome


the only hardcore players left are bishops who leech 7 hrs a day xD *kappa*

 

Personally, I feel like the major problem is a complete lack of new players joining the server and you can really see this in FM.

Anything that not's great or godlike is also almost impossible to sell in FM nowadays. When I first joined in November of 2017, you could sell things like 4/8 int earrings, 5 int masks, 5/5 gloves pretty easily at standard prices that were reasonably compared to the prices of scrolls. The prices of these scrolls have gone up since I joined, but the prices of items like these have gone down since they are such a pain in the ass to sell. Tragic tbh.

To address the main post, everyone will always judge books by their covers and the cover of the book of a private Maplestory severs is its player count.

 

I stopped reading after I seen the words "LocalMS"

For what those assholes did to my 2nd ranked Ice/Lightning mage? pffffftt

I made that server crumble.

 

I read the post and that is why I am telling you that this server has a lower user count or declining user count may due to the fact that this server takes an extensive amount of time to go anywhere in game aside from other server trying to boost their count. Yes I know this is a 2x server so it should be a lot easier compare to the real maple during the old days. But you have to keep in mind that this is not the early 2000s and the gaming industries have changed since then. I am not sure running this server is your full time job or not but this is going to be an uphill battle for you. Simply put, Maple is a dying trend or MMORPG in general is a dying trend. Let's take a look at the current popular games right now. Not in any particular orders, we have Dota, LoL, PUBG, Hearthstone, OW, and etc. What do they have in common? Well, all their games are players compete with players games and all their game can be done within 1 hour or less most of the time. Now if we look at maple, what can we achieve within 1 hour? Well depends on your level, you can probably gain 20 to 5% of exp of your current level which just does not feel like you have done much. In turn of game play, you are just trying to kill some computer controlled monsters that randomly move left or right. Maple is like a flip phone in which it was popular and influential during a period of time, but no improvements can be made to make them desirable again. I know this is off topic but I just want give you some of my insight. As for why GTOP is doing what they are doing, they probably make more money by doing that. I do not know what is your end goal. If your end goal to run a old school maple server with around 500ish people then you have achieved that and you do not need to change anything. If your end goal is to make money from running maple then this is a bad idea because Neckson has already milked all the money from this game and this game currently does not offer anything appealing to the current market. If your end goal is to have more than 500 players, then maybe do what other servers are doing.

 

Next topic on wipes

 

This server literally has the second highest player count on gtop in regards to Pre-BB servers, and on top of that has had a steady average count of 350-400 ish players at least since I started playing 4 months ago ish. Point being I don't see how that's a low user count considering this is a private server and is obviously doing "better"(Obviously subjective) than all but one server (again in regards to pre big bang servers). Not even going to take into account how its run/actually monitored and enforced compared to other servers.

 

Not MapleRoyals pls, royals is trash. K bye

 

That was directed towards player count not actual quality of either server lol

 

I will take this as we both agree royals is trash. K we are cool

 

I'll through my 2 mesos worth into this thread...

Anyone who knows me understands why I'm progressing through the game at a rate 12x slower than anyone else. Because of this, I'm often seen as someone who is either too eccentric or too ignorant to take a chance on adding them to their guild. The recent guild I've joined is the first I've ever joined where they seem to think what I'm doing is cool - I mean, I'm well aware what I'm doing is unorthodox, but I'm enjoying myself and I don't care what you think otherwise! I even opened The Junk Yard in the FM, and I'm actually quite shocked at how many players appreciate what I'm doing - I didn't know it would be such a big deal, but I'm glad people find it useful. I just figured that someone could probably use these drops. Again, though, this is a very unorthodox thing to do because you're not going to make a lot of mesos doing it. But that's just it, I don't care about mesos as much as I care being a member of the MapleLegends community. If you want to have a server where people want to become integrated players, then the players also need to take some responsibility toward making sure the community is a place people would want to spend their time.

So, my highest character right now is 85. I'm not leveling any of my characters higher than 85 because I'm hoping that Kimberly can get MPQ working before I'm forced to level further. I love it when MapleLegends introduces a new area. I would have loved EPQ more if all my characters weren't all level 70+ when EPQ came out. I'm stoked that APQ is finally working - even though I haven't gotten married at all yet, it is something I intend to do...eventually. My point here is, I take steps toward the next "end-game" phase. My first phase was level 30 (2nd Job), second was level 51 (LPQ glasses), third was level 70 (3rd Job), and now fourth Level 85 (MPQ quests completed). The reason I do this is to fully explore the available game content for each spectrum of levels and how each class interacts with them differently. Neckson did a great job making the lower level game content rich. Having had a Paladin on GMS, I know the game content choices at the higher levels becomes minimized. End game content is something World of Warcraft constantly sought to improve, and that should be the same focus here. CWKPQ and Pink Bean would be excellent additions to the server. The power creep of the Maker Skill would also be an excellent addition in conjunction with Bink Pean (sic). These have to be introduced slowly - no sense in slamming these all at us at once, but as long as the game continues to add new content for levels 70+, then you're going in the right direction.

This is the only server with x2 exp - the nearest one is MapleDestiny at x4 (I used to play there, they did a wipe and screw them for that!). People choose this server because they WANT to play a challenging game. People who choose the 500x exp servers do so because they aren't interested in investing time into the game, they just want a quick tour and then go on with their lives. That's not the target demographic for this server! So who cares?! MapleLegends is meeting and serving it's target demographic. There's no need to worry about Croosade - they're not even a .62 platform server! I'm not interested in an .83+ platform server! And I'm fairly certain most people on MapleLegends aren't either - but there are some things that came out in .83+ that we'd like to see integrated. It would take a lot of coding and some experienced programmers, but well worth it when the time comes.