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Utility of Donor's Point

Discussion in 'Rejected' started by MrHoO, Oct 4, 2017.

Is donor's item / service / access good enough?

  1. Donor is good as it is !

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  2. Maybe donor should deserve something more ?

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  3. NO MEANS NO, F**K DONORS! NO TIME NO PLAY ! STFU AND LIVE WITH IT !

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  1. OP
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    MrHoO Red Snail

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    well I get your point,

    as for the chair part, since ML is practicing "fairness", i'm just pointing out a very small point which don't matter, but isn't fair for 2 different new players (donors and non-donors).

    Personally I don't agree on double drop (due to bossing drop), how bout 2x exp / 2x mesos. Leeching mechanics = money, meaning 2x exp = lesser amount earn by leecher. but still, he has to spend 4 hours worth of leeching instead of 8 hours (as per your example), but you keep factoring out the donor's real life money. which in exchange for the differences that donor is getting, which is the 2x amount money saved + 2x amount of time saved. in exchange of "x" amount of real life money. it's not Pay2Win, for what I think.

    I understand you kept pointing out the edge of a donor getting 2x exp is time saved + mesos saved. in exchange of a piece of real money. I'm saying that it's not game breaking. or making it 1.5x for x amount of real life money to balance the economy out, so donors could at least save some time in game at least. I'm not requesting putting 2x in donors shop / putting apreset/gacha in donors shop. maybe a 1.5x exp buff item ? or exp gacha for donors (might not be fair, but saves donors time, e.g. condition like max level using exp gacha = x level) to catch up to end game to enjoy the game content a little more instead of grinding(leveling) for 3 months then enjoy the game content.

    It's not actually Pay2Win, you pay to get the slight advantage over non-donors, which non-donors can still achieve with just harder effort.

    still trying how to figure out how to catch up with the game.
     
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    yooo you already said yourself that it isn't fair for non-donors dont know watcha thinking you having twice the exp rate isnt a slight advantage its actually gives an extreme edge over non donors your basically leveling twice as fast...For instance, in current maplestory miracle cubes can either be bought for 2 bucks on you can spend 1 week just to craft one although you are able to obtain the same results as donors you take a heck longer of a time. so what you are suggesting is not completely pay to win but it still is "partially" pay to win and i think thats what the admins are trying to avoid.
     
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    Xquisite Orange Mushroom

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    I agree that donations need a buff, but not in the EXP department. I believe the hardest part of this game is earning muhni for pots and such. I also play for 1-2-3h a day, and the fact that is slow, makes it much rewarding once you reach job advancement.

    Maplestory, or at least this server, is not really competitive unless you make it out to be that way.
     
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    I'm fine with this idea, if people have to provide proof that they work many hours of the day.
    If not, IT'S P2W.
     
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    a game always have to be supported in some way, and this is it how is done.
     
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    Chew Headless Horseman

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    I got a non exp suggestion. Let us buy guilds and guild upgrades using donor points, maybe even new fonts for guild name.
    Then I would gladly drop some money.
     
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    Which is STILL pay2win, that is what pay2win is all about.
    It doesn't matter how big the overall advantage is, the fact you payed money to get any advantage is still considered pay2win.

    You catch up by making smart moves in the game, and effectively utilizing your time.
    That and getting lucky with either gachapon or scrolling.
     
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    You can't compare 2bucks for a mcube with a week of craft. That's why I said, e.g. donors who donated. lets just put this as an example, $5 for a 1hr of 1.5x or 2x, what do you think now? yes people could spend $120 for a day of 1.5x / 2x ? because a $2 thing is compared with a week work, how bout $120 for something that you can outbeat just for double the work of someone who paid. those who willing to pay, pay. for the ease of work. I'm just talking about an example. not actual fact tho. and yes $5 for 1hr of 1.5x/2x buff is ridiculous, but you get my point. So don't compare $2 for a week of farm. :)


    Maybe not for EXP department, but somehow somewhere, i think donors should have a little more than the current state. I just wanted to enjoy the end game content a little sooner.

    Hmm.. if that's the case then I guess i got the "Pay2Win" idea wrongly. Pay2Win for my POV is consider like using $10,000 can be highlevel / strong as someone who played for 6 months. even if he just played for 1 week.

    As for my suggestion about EXP curve is to ease the grindfest needed to enjoy late game content (e.g. bossing) , due to limited time.
     
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    I'm just confused why you're trying to play a LOW-RATE private server for a Korean mmo if you don't want to grind. There are plenty of high rate servers out there if you want to reach endgame content and they're fun in their own ways.

    Even if you don't want to play high rates, there are other low rate servers with slightly higher rates than Legends.
     
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    lol your not getting my point. I'm trying to get into your dense head that anything that gives an advantage to anything by donations in this server is probably not going to be accepted cuz its slightly pay to win. My cube for $2 analogy was just an example of what p2w is like since you dont quite understand what the term actually means . Since you want to experience end game content and don't have time for it I suggest you play some other higher rate servers which have the 2x exp coupons aka (ease of work) whereas by your logic is fair even when people who are not busy with real life stuff can donate to get that 2x exp buff as well.

    ps dont know why you think levelling twice as fast isnt gamebreaking when majority of the game is about levelling
     
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    If you dont have time to train yourself do what half the server does and leech. I'm in college so I just login at night, buy leech for like an hour so I can work on other things.
     
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    Taida Mixed Golem

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    Are you not going to address these points? lmao

    Listening to what you only want to hear detracts from the point of this "discussion".
     
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    that being said i see no reason to donate since the free nx is already decent enough some are even better than the donor ones so we could use some other donation incentives
     
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