Why is Account Sharing Bad?

the only thing this thread is missing:

Spoiler: Kappa

 

I mean, this is just beating a dead horse here and naming a separate offense, but look at the Charlo ksing anego incident. Nothing was done to offender.
Yet when the situation was reversed (albeit for a different offense), punishment was doled out. If that's not unfair then I don't know what the definition of the word is anymore.

That being said, Serin's posts above do seem to have a genuine sentiment, so I'm personally at least willing to give the benefit of the doubt for the short term future.

 

I know that some of you guys might be resentful towards the staff team for things that happened in the past, but I think Serin explained the whole thing very well. Kimmy made the decision to expand the team quite a bit, including some people like myself who are quite new to the community overall (and pretty much knew none of the staff team personally before I was picked up). We have less experience in the server, and may not know all the events or drama that happened in the past, but I joined the team already thinking that general transparency and communication could use some improvements.

We can't just erase what happened in the past with older staff members, but do give us a chance to show you guys that positive changes are being made overall and that we can show you that.
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Wait, so we're either:
A) Supposed to unwillingly report the majority of the community
or
B) Keep quiet and make the staff team feel like their approach is the best way to deal with the situation?

Seems like one hell of an ambiguous lose-lose situation imo.

Man, and I thought Maplestory was supposed to be a COMMUNITY based game. Believe it or not, the majority of us players don't want to completely back stab 90% of the others, even the ones we don't necessarily like.

Think of it like this: In many regions of the United States, including my own, the recreational use of marijuana is illegal. Despite that, the majority of my own peers partake in such practices. However, do you think I would call the cops on that one jerk in the back of my math class who I know smokes weed routinely? Hell no. It wouldn't solve shit, and if anything, it would just make me an asshole.

The best response to this predicament is just to legalize account sharing; have policies in the updated ToS stating account sharing is at an individual's own risk and there would be close to no chance of account recovery if stolen. In my humble opinion, account sharing is pretty similar in principle to multi-clienting.

Also, if we were to ACTUALLY report everybody who is a known account sharer, well then have fun moderating a server with 50 people online on a regular basis(shout-out to the troopers who were here last summer).

tl;dr: #FREEFRANCO

 

Just out of curiosity, can any of the staff members actually address the question in thread title? Why is account sharing bad? It's nice and all to know that the staff, which is a small group of volunteers, claims to do its best to address it, but I haven't actually seen any reasons for why the account-sharing rule is even in place (or at least, what I think are good reasons). As Julie mentioned, I'm quite positive that many, or at least some staff members are aware of people that account share but aren't willing to act upon it. It's a difficult rule to enforce, and it's certainly prone to bias despite what's been said in this thread.

 

TLDR: staff made clear they don't give a fuck. You can abuse all you want as long as you don't say anything, GG easy game.

Atleast i'm happy the staff here isn't full of trigger happy nazi's who want to ban as much people to feed there powertrip (Poofkek not included)

 

Since all the staff seem to be in here can this thread get some attention?

https://forum.maplelegends.com/inde...rice-of-transparent-shield-and-glasses.11933/

ty.

 

yes but just because you do not report someone, doesnt mean someone else wont. an anon could report, so even if you don't, people could still be at risk ... does that make sense? lol im sure youre not trying to be a jerk and backstab people but im just stating that there are probably people who dont see it this way and will report no matter what, and if they're quiet in the game, you wouldnt know whos doing, saying, feeling, or thinking what. like you may not rat your friends out for smoking pot but it doesnt stop someone else from reporting if they see them doing it. i wont go into saying "legalize account sharing" since i have questions about this still, but i feel like no matter what... nobody will be happy with whatever choice they make. you can't please everyone so im sure if they legalized that, there would probably be another thread complaining about it or something... similar to the ap reset price situation (which im not getting into, but just saying how you cant please everyone lol).

thats all i wanted to say ;p as far as the other stuff in terms of why it is bad or how to spot "sibling sharing" situations, i'm interested in that information as well. i am relatively new to this server so i wouldnt mind some clarification on those subcategories. and do not read this comment as a dig, im just trying to state my opinion ;p

 

Well let me put it to you this way then. If you want to complain that the staff is passing judgement with this rule with an uneven hand, yet you don't report your friends who you know you do it (but let's say you report people you don't like) then you have no moral high ground or legitimate reason for complaint because you don't apply it evenly yourself.

If your problem is with the rule itself, why are you only speaking out now? I recall someone saying something was unfair to Franco, someone screwed him over, broke a rule, but the rule got changed. So yes, let's do the same thing. Franco breaks a rule, now we'll change it. Talk about an appearance of staff favoritism.

Ah but wait. Now the staff are put into one heck of a predicament, where they are biased and unfair if they ban him, but they're definitely biased and unfair if they change the rules only when someone they think is important gets in trouble.

Personally I think this account sharing, as well as mult-clienting and leeching has ruined the game and the community. It says a lot if all but 50 people broke this rule. Moreover, it says a lot about you and your friends if you think 90% of the community broke it. Might as well be an admission of guilt and guilt by association.

Which would probably lead to you and your friends being investigated, banned, and cue more whining about censorship and unfairness.

 

5k worth to snitch?

 

I remember there was promise of a reward when you reported someone violating the ToS, is that still a thing?

 

I'm curious about the sibling issue. If siblings use the same computer and IP address, can you see that they are account sharing other than alleged screenshots (thus no hard evidence)? Do the rules also apply to them still? This is an extremely gray area and I'm sure it's not the main issue, but I'd still like to know.

 

Thanks for the reply. And one more question, if you don't mind. Is the account sharing rule still enforced for siblings? Like let's say my brother got on my account for a party buff or transferring of items, even though I have given him permission, are we still both banned?

 

Alright thank you! Good luck out there with the community.

 

Logs have most of the proof when it comes to account sharing. GMs and Assistants dont have access to that. Therefore they cannot fairly ban anyone unless they just go to the person and ask "who is this". Using only IP address is extremely flawed and cannot be used solely to prove account sharing either.

What I and Clairvoyant meant was that there is no doubt you know people in your own guild / buddylist who account share or have a shared mule with others. I had to ban one of my closer friends on ML because he quit and gave his account info. Thats the issue with bias, you will ban the ones who have been reported but you will (as most players) not take the initiative to report your friends. "Anon" reporters most of the time wont be able to tell if the account is shared or not because people who account share dont openly say it to random people, they tell their friends.

^o^ ToS has needed updating since before january