New player influx & the gacha system - Discussion about the market

yeah i haven't bothered gaching in a few months bc market is over saturated

 

Would the increase in player base not only increase supply for scrolls due to cash/hunting tickets, but also increase demand as there will eventually be more people buying scrolls?

 

There is absolutely nothing to worry about here.

More players are bringing in more gach items, but more players also means more demand. Prices are going down because all these new players don't have all the billions of mesos that have accrued over the two years the server has been running. It's only natural because the new players can't afford to pay the inflated prices for goods the old playerbase created. This is a good thing.

You say you've played the server since launch. Do you remember how the gach system initially was, where people actually had the chance to scroll good gear? That is, before the Great Gachapon Revamp which killed the economy. Funny thing is, I don't remember people complaining about how the gachapon system was too good. Rather, it was the opposite.

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https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/final-thread-about-this-the-sky-ski-issue.3310/

https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/gacha-tuning-v2.3168/

https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/gachapon-pots-pies-chance-reduced.4143/


Oh no! There's not enough sky skis! There's not enough good scrolls! There's too many pies and elixirs! This was back in the day when most gachapon items were pretty plentiful. It's pretty ironic to see you complaining how the gach system wasn't offering enough back then. We had people vote abusing just so they could gach more and there was rampant speculation about cheaters with the numbers of godly items floating around.

And yet now, after you've got a high level char and your fill of equipments, after suffering over a year of barren economy, after we finally get a gachapon system that seems to work, with a growing playerbase and a growing economy... you are worried it is too easy.




...words can't describe this. Remember the past if you're going to flaunt around how long you've been on this server.

People complained that they couldn't find X or Y from gachapon because the mushroom shrine was too OP and everyone went there. So then that got nerfed. Everything was nerfed. For over a year the staff here piddled around with a broken system where many people simply didn't gach at all because they heard it was so bad and were waiting for the next "fix".

Eventually with a lot of trial and error, we have what we have now. It's still not perfect but at least there's some relation between time/effort spent playing and rare scrolls/items..

Please, stop trying to incite a panic or concern that there is something wrong with the current economy, unless you want to be responsible for ruining it again.

 

I couldn't have just left it at that. Because of course there would be people such as yourself who disagree, so I would have to elaborate and explain why there was nothing to worry about.

And the best argument I could come up with was pointing out that once upon a time (near server launch as you love to point out) you enjoyed a very similar market but were asking for more. Now, after we have a semblance of a good economy, you want less?

Well you wanted a discussion. Now we're having it. So why do you feel it's so important that legends be harder now? Coincidentally, when we're at a point when you are at the top and many many new players are at the bottom.

 

And as I said, even though more newcomers are producing more scrolls and items, that also means there will be more demand.

So how prices are going to spiral out of control and we will hit an apocalypse? I'm sorry, but it just won't happen. Give the new players a chance to get up there in levels to that they can also make their mesos easier, and I'm sure prices will rise again.

 

I'll definitely have to agree with Lionheart there; I feel like the Gachapon is definitely fair as it is. Cash tickets gives you garbage like 95% of the time so there's no worry there, and Hunting Gach tickets are rare enough that people need to grind quite a while to get them (And even then, you get a high amount of junk scrolls from them).
As I mentioned in the scroll price thread, the prices went down since there's a huge influx of new players with not much money that can't afford the prices set by the earlier players. High demand, high supply, but with prices that were way too high. Meanwhile, the demand for scrolled items is going back up since the new wave is hitting the higher levels (Myself included!).
Prices are going to stabilize soon enough; they just won't be as high as they used to be, which is good.

White Scrolls are already going back up in price because the boom from the Anniversary Event is already dying out and most of the supply was bought out. I've seen like three yellow items in the FM since I've joined. Sure, you might be able to afford some more scrolls now if you've been sitting on a few billions, but prices aren't cheap enough that making yellow items is ''easy'' now unless you spam white scrolls.

 

Simple rebuttal: supply is NOT greater than demand. It's just that the party on the demand side has less mesos. Also, with 200 players we had about half the FM full of unsold scrolls and items. Now with 500 players, we have the full FM and then some full of unsold scrolls and items.

Is it prices crashing and oversaturation? Or maybe twice the number of players means twice the number of players trying to sell their stuff.

Can you really verify if everything is "unsold" in the FM anyway? We can see items that have been sold and are faded out, and what's more, it's very easy to remove those items and put more items up for sale. So technically every item in the FM is "unsold" until it is sold.

Please, show us some legit perfected gear. And I hope you have a lot of examples, seeing as our population exploded.

 

Gach is fine. They did a great job with the system, this is how it should be. I can actually go to the market and buy a white scroll any day of the week. FeelsGoodMan.

 

omg, any day of the week!? But that means perfect gear will be flooding the server!!!

Oh wait, it isn't...

 

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