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Request to re-open Summoning Sack Mayhem contest.

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Zeretius, Oct 9, 2017.

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  1. Zeretius
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    I wanted to formally request that my thread Summoning Sack Mayhem be re-open. The staff has brought back summoning sacks for Halloween and this player event would actually be helpful to the problem. Why? may you ask, I will be listing some pros and cons.

    Pros:

    - Encourages consuming the monster bags this month. Therefore there wont be as many left after October.
    - Discourages sacks from being stockpiled, since users can make mesos from this event.
    - Discourages map holding. People AFK holding maps have a higher chance of getting killed creating a high turnover rate for needed maps as the player population is higher during the event.
    - Discourages leeching. Especially full AFK leech, you actually have to play the game this month.
    - Discourages killing levels 1-10, being awarded 0 kill points.

    Cons:
    - Encourages killing players. Losing exp is annoying especially at higher levels.
    - May be a turn off to newer players level 10-75. However, people will do this anyways without the player event.


    Furthermore, the event doesn't promote harassment due to only being able to obtain Kill points from unique individuals per player. Example - Zeretius got killed by Arya, Arya cannot obtain kill points from Zeretius again.

    Why bring an item like this into the game if they're illegal?

    They could also just get deleted from the game if the staff feels this strongly about them. Otherwise I think we need to buckle down and push through this horrific item, Using them as fast as possible to avoid future problems.

    - "That's like the Mayor bringing cocaine into the city then saying "Oh don't do cocaine, you'll go to jail for it"" - Anonymous

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    Feel free to add to pros and cons.
     
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    I would really love to see them bringing back more summoning sack
     
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    While I feel like it is a giant dick move to kill afk leechers (don't give me that bullshit about it being "healthy because it discourages leeching", everyone does this and you know it), the fact that the staff allowed this to be introduced then banned any sort of public organized sport really is contradictory and frankly confusing. Like either don't introduce it or embrace it and go all the way?
     
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    honestly, your entire thread is about encouraging other players to kill each other.
    and some of youre justification is for ex. 'to discourage leechers/afkers' or to 'promote the use, so they get used up quickly'
    those are dumb reasons.
    and just because killing low level player doesnt award any points for your game/thread, do you think it wont happen? theyre the easiest targets. and it seem people who want summoning sacks are only out to kill players, which i cant understand why...
    i thought people wanted to use them to kill creatures/bosses to get loot & so they wouldnt have to travel to that place, or something along those lines
     
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    Whoever is sensitive enough to cry over dying in a virtual game, should leave the internet/games and wait for maturity to hit
     
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    I think the game is hilarious and I would love going to the forum and see someone gathering points for killing my char. Its way better then just being randomly killed which will propably happen anyways..
     
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    Please expand on why they're "dumb reasons".

    'to discourage leechers/afkers' - Yes, since its 10% exp event the population is slightly higher than normal and summoning sacs will encourage users to press the FM button when they afk. Leading to high turnover rate on populated maps like skele's, petris, gs2 giving other players a chance to level at these maps.

    'promote the use, so they get used up quickly' - Yes, The faster you use the items the faster they're out of the game. People will want to use them instead of stockpiling, so we don't have summoning sacs for the next year floating around.

    EDIT: It's a shit situation because i doubt the staff wanted these in game, you have some options. Delete them completely, Disable them, buckle up and use them as fast as possible, or stockpile for future and catch people off guard.
     
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    its not about crying or being mature. you all recognize its annoying. but i guess killing other player is so fun for you that it outweighs the cons. so, you know its annoying, but you still want to do it to others, because its fun for you... that sounds immature to me

    you dont need a game/thread to do any of these...
    if someone is afking/leeching, someone with a summoning sack will do what they want. why do they need a game/thread for this?

    your logic for using them quickly isnt wrong, its just not a good reason. because you could just use them for killing the summoned creatures/boss, and i dont know... not use them to try and kill people...

    what if someone who has alot of time on their hand, i dont know, someone >level 190 *cough*, runs around trying to kill people.

    die a couple of times and see if youre not mad.
    and for the people who are saying 'buy safety charms noob', what if youre trying to get an exp hairstyle? or saving up for ap resets? or saving up for gach?
    and for the people who are going to say 'theyre really cheap', so... for someone else to have fun i have to waste my own nx? even if its a small amount, its still not justified

    so, to add to your 'pro' list 'its fun to kill people'

    Zeretius answer
     
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    1. How hard is it to click the fm button to be safe from summoning bags? If you die afking at a mob map, you were probably trying to hog it to use it later in which case you deserved to get killed if they needed the map. If it was because you were afk leeching, killing leechers actually goes in favor of the staff's beliefs that they actually dislike leeching.
    2. How hard is it to spend nx on safety charms by using nx which is a currency you get for free by voting?
    3. It is only annoying if the death means something important (like not being able to keep going on a boss run, missing some loot, etc.) not when it only means you lose a map you weer hogging
     
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    yaaas queen slay

     
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    1. 'How hard is it to click the fm button to be safe from summoning bags?' so we have to be punished for not clicking the fm button?
    'you were probably trying to hog it to use it later' so you dont know for certain? what if someone is answering the phone/door/other person. oh right! you cant know for certain...
    'killing leechers actually goes in favor of the staff's beliefs that they actually dislike leeching' wrong the staff have been saying 'killing people is bad' & 'leeching is allowed'
    2. its not hard... seems you ignored what i said after. i.e. what if youre trying to use nx for something else, so i have to buy more charms because someone thinks im afking, or someone wants to kill me for fun.
    3. 'It is only annoying if the death means something important' didnt realize you get to decide whats important & not important for others
    again youre entire argument is based on if the person was hogging a map
    youre argument is based on a specific situation. for which you dont know the real answer.
    and no where does it state in zeretius's game/thread, that you must specifically kills leechers/afkers. it just says it discourages that. the point of his game/thread is to kill people, regardless if they are leechers/afkers. why dont you address that aswell?
     
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    Found out summoning bags might expire after event so i gave my 6 bags to Zeretius. #doublekill
     
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    You just twist words and aint nobody got time to discuss with someone like that :roflmao:
     
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    nice...
    they were youre words, i just expanded on them i.e. why youre logic is flawed. if i am wrong, then kindly point them out. if you cant, well maybe you should reconsider what you wrote
     
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    TheDudeTheDude go play in your safehouse bro, we don't need crybabies here XatEmo
     
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    nice ad hominem, offers no reasoning as to why im wrong, but insults me.
     
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    S> leech PM @greenwaves. thank you
     
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