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Completed Bring Back That Hair and Face! Summer 2021

Discussion in 'Events' started by Oolong, Aug 3, 2021.

What hairs and faces are you voting for?

Poll closed Aug 10, 2021.
  1. MH1 Tied Two-Tone

    63 vote(s)
    19.7%
  2. MH2 Waxed

    63 vote(s)
    19.7%
  3. MH3 Lucid

    40 vote(s)
    12.5%
  4. MH4 Comma

    74 vote(s)
    23.2%
  5. FH1 Wild Princess's Mane

    75 vote(s)
    23.5%
  6. FH2 Moonlight Fairy

    35 vote(s)
    11.0%
  7. FH3 Lucid

    65 vote(s)
    20.4%
  8. FH4 Roly Poly

    106 vote(s)
    33.2%
  9. MF1 Forest Fairy

    52 vote(s)
    16.3%
  10. MF2 Eyes-On-You

    35 vote(s)
    11.0%
  11. MF3 Dreamy

    52 vote(s)
    16.3%
  12. MF4 Starry-Eyed

    66 vote(s)
    20.7%
  13. FF1 Still Eyed

    113 vote(s)
    35.4%
  14. FF2 Calm Odd Eye

    73 vote(s)
    22.9%
  15. FF3 Takeno Konoko

    10 vote(s)
    3.1%
  16. FF4 Starry-Eyed

    55 vote(s)
    17.2%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Oolong
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    Oolong Dark Stone Golem Retired Staff

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    Hello Maplers!

    For our Summer 2021 event we need your help to bring back 1 hair and 1 face for each gender! Vote for your favorite and we'll choose the top vote for each category to include in our upcoming event.

    You will have 4 votes total (1 for each gender's face and hair). Pick wisely!

    Male Hair
    MH1: Tied Two-ToneMH2: WaxedMH3: LucidMH4: Comma
    [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

    Female Hair

    FH1: Wild Princess's ManeFH2: Moonlight FairyFH3: LucidFH4: Roly Poly
    [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
    Male Face
    MF1: Forest FairyMF2: Eyes-On-YouMF3: DreamyMF4: Starry-Eyed
    [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
    Female Face
    FF1: Still EyedFF2: Calm Odd EyeFF3: Takeno KonokoFF4: Starry-Eyed
    [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
    The poll will close on August 10th, 1:59pm PST!
    These will be brought back along with new hairstyles and faces for Summer 2021.
     
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  2. Lulinya
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    upload_2021-8-4_0-54-49.png this eyes please
     
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  3. Ainz
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    Ainz Zakum

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    So many I keep forgetting
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    Just out of general curiosity, why was this particular set of hairs and faces selected? I feel like there's a huge set of other hairs and faces that got much love but were never brought back.
     
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  4. OP
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    Oolong
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    I wanted to pick a few that haven't been used since 2018/2019. If anyone has any hairs/faces that they'd want us to consider for the next poll throw em at me \o/
     
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  5. TWW
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    TWW Pink Teddy

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    [​IMG]

    Solitaire hair when MapleF1
     
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  6. Galcian
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    Metal hair.
     
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  7. Hiyo
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    Heya, just wanted to say thank you for giving us the chance to get some older hairs back. I am here to suggest some hairs that I want to see back as well as request that you guys add at least 2 or 3 older hairs since there are so many of them and we haven't gotten older hairs in many of the previous events T_T.

    Here are the Male hair suggestions:

    Bisk, Sprout Shiny, Heavy Metal, Wild Wolf, Wild Princess's Mane (M), Randy Hair, Chess Hair, Guile Hair, Tousled Pampadour and Ciel Hair

    Female hair suggestions:

    Aria, Siren, Elegant Wave, Takenokonoko, Jessica's Drill, Soprano, Prim Air, Mini Horn, Breezy Beach Hair, Duchess Hair, Foggy Elodie

    For faces I honestly just want Starry Summer eyes :3

    Thank you again for doing this!
     
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  8. keho
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    Saw this hair being asked for by another user in the cash shop suggestions thread. Would love to see it in this event!
     

    Attached Files:

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  9. Hyoon
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    Yeah I agree, there should be a larger volume to pick from especially since there will only be one selected from the bunch.
     
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  10. Kyshies
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    Please vote for Lucid hair female! Just look at these outfits!

    upload_2021-8-4_10-54-28.png

    How can you say no to that? Also, me love you long time if you vote for Lucid hair female :D.
     
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  11. Lucidcat
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    meow
     
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  12. 8TEEN
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    Macbeth, Viona, Torrie, Wilson
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    Also agreeing with Hiyo here, I find it rather strange at this year's choices.
    • Starry eyed eyes, was last seen in Summer 2020, August.
    • Forest Fairy eyes, was called back twice now, last seen in Christmas 2020, December.
    • Still eyes, called back 3 times, last seen in Valentines 2020, February.
    • Lucid hair, has been called back 4 times to date, and was last featured in Anniversary 2020, in May.

    My point is, four of these options that we can choose from, have already been seen in last year's events. For loyal players that has been playing continuously till now, that is 4 options less for us in a very small pool of choices.

    Based on this thread: https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/guide-beauty-parlor-hair-face-skin.7651/, it shows that there are options that were only used once, and a long time ago in fact. I'm curious to why only certain hair/faces are called back more often than the rest. There are other good options out there too, that has not got their turn. Maybe a GM could speak up to clarify.

    My suggestion is, perhaps we could have a bigger pool of choices so that we can gauge the interest of the community for future events too as well.
    Alternatively, Players and GMs can also touch base on what Hair/Eyes/Clothes they would like to see on the server through this existing thread: https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/ask-for-new-cash-items-here.7418/page-29


    TL, DR: Event hair/eyes requires more variation. They deserve more exclusivity, because it is exclusive to event only, just like chairs. Too much frequency with the same few hairs/eyes, takes away that novelty - should leave more time in between before featuring the same one again.

    For some of us, the beauty of this game is not only to further ourselves, but also to enjoy different aesthetic ways of self-expression and individualism on our characters.

    Thank you for listening and taking my feedback into consideration!
     
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  13. Chris
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    Hairspray (male hair) pls OnionSanta
     
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  14. Floris
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    Honestly, this. If the intent was to bring back older hair/face styles that haven’t been featured in events for a bit, please actually do so.
    It currently seems the same list of hairs/faces are just being recycled in these bring back threads, which to me defeats the point.
     
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  15. PostureCheck
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    where's my metal hair

    [​IMG]

    edit: really ppl choosing mh4 coma? shit looks like you're trying to cover ur baldness
     
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  16. Floris
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    This is another classic situation in which Staff (sorry OolongOolong it was you in particular here) responds one time to criticism of a decision they make (in this case, the hair/face styles we can vote for) with a vague answer that simply does not logically hold.

    I understand and appreciate this, but you simply did not do so.

    As explained here:
    This thread (at least partially) missed the intention explained by a staff member commenting on it. When this is pointed out by members of the community, no more response is given by staff. I understand that you guys might find it too much of a hassle to make a new poll or still change the options we can vote for this time around, but it would be nice to get a response in which it is acknowledged that the options in this thread have been brought up very many times already and it will be different in the future. Is that so hard?

    Personally I'm sick of only having the same options for "bring back that hair/face".
     
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  17. Pasta
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    Quick scheme based on the information provided in the Beauty Parlor guide:

    Haircuts:
    Male options

    Tied Two-Tone hair: Christmas 2019
    Waxed hair: Summer 2017
    Lucid hair: Christmas 2018 (2 times)
    Comma hair: Christmas 2019

    Female options
    Wild Princess's Mane: Christmas 2018
    Moonlight Fairy hair: Summer 2017
    Lucid hair: Anniversary 2020 (4 times)
    Roly Poly hair: Anniversary 2019

    Faces:
    Male options

    Forest Fairy face: Summer 2018
    Eyes-On-You: Anniversary 2019 (3 times)
    Dreamy face: Anniversary 2019 (2 times)
    Starry-Eyed face: Summer 2020

    Female options
    Still Eyed face: Valentines 2020 (3 times)
    Calm Odd Eye: Summer 2018 (2 times)
    Takeno Konoko face: Christmas 2017
    Starry-Eyed face: Summer 2020

    Out of all the 16 choices provided, 4 of them are from 2020, 3 of them have been picked more than 2 times.
    Or to put it in another perspective, out of all the 16 choices provided, 11 haven't been around since 2017-2019 and have not been offered more than 2 times.

    Based on that,

    Most of those options haven't been here for 2 years; saying that there's always the same ones is wrong. Whether or not they fit someone's personal preferences is another thing.

    She did. "I wanted to pick a few that haven't been used since 2018/2019.", which is covered by all but 4 options.

    Not every player is an old player, thus some of the offered material will bring back popular choices to cater to new folks aswell.
    Are some of those too recent/recycled in your opinion? That's what giving feedback is for, and criticism/suggestions like those of HiyoHiyo and 8TEEN8TEEN are good examples of what we look at when refining our next choices.

    Because no more response is required. Feedback is always acknowledged.
    We will not be remaking the pool of choices for this event, so any and all suggestions will be considered for the next ones.
     
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    It doesnt matter how many options for hair/face we have to vote on. Somehow we'll always find a way to vote in the most generic styles. wackomush
     
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  19. Floris
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    Thanks for the response PastaPasta , I appreciate it <3. Also thank you for putting in the work to point out that the choices are more unique than my post might have suggested, while also being from the intended period.
    Clearly, I was simply wrong and jumped to conclusions based on conformational bias.

    I constructed some kind of point grading system that is obviously highly arbitrary but might help to demonstrate what I meant:
    upload_2021-8-6_17-51-7.png

    Intention: show the years since the hairstyle has last been seen, and provide a cumulative sum of the years since for all 16 hair/face styles.
    Afterwards, I subtracted 1 point per # of times the hair/face style has been brought back already. I feel the comments have mostly been targeted at this situation where some hair/face styles have been around so many times while others have never been brought back.

    As we can see, if these face/hair styles had all been unique "bring back that hair/face" styles, there wouldve been a sum of 38 years. Now with this quite strange assumption of multiplicity reducing the value of a hair/face style being brought back, this is just 22.

    I hope my crappy way of explaining makes sense to someone. For me personally, a face/hair style that has been brought back 4 times can wait a year before being suggested again. However, I understand that staff doesn't go through complicated weighing procedures to find hair/face styles to let us pick to bring back.

    Suggestion: Slightly negatively weight face/hair styles that have been brought back in the past more than 1 time. By this I mean that face/hair styles that have never been brought back could be seen as 'preferred' over styles that have been brought back. If this is done for 1-2 consecutive events every now and then, a bunch of hair/face styles that havent been brought back will have been through the cycle again!

    EDIT: Forgot to respond to your question:
    This is what I meant yes, I feel like Lucid hair, Eyes-On-You, Dreamy face, Lucid hair female, Still Eyed face and Calm Odd eye might have just been brought back a bit too much at this point. Again, considering the multiplicity with which they have been brought back and their year of first appearance. This is however just an opinion though.
     
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    [For future reference] Would it be possible to create a poll similar to GMS's Pixel Picks?
    About once a year there's a poll open for votes, a selection of 30 hairstyles and faces (a huge selection of older hairs and faces that could definitely be smaller) and the highest ranked hairs and faces come out as the next rotation during the event.
    This could help the new and older members of the Community get past hairs and faces they like and let everyone take part in the event's options luvmush
     
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