The nerfs are too op.

1. At skeles I use at least 2m in pots in less than an hour of grinding. I probably can last about 30-45 mins max and then I have to go repot like literally 5 more times.

2. If ilbis were nerfed from wolf spiders, may I ask why tobis haven't been nerfed? Because people get a crap ton of them in gs2. Not to mention steelies as well at gs5. If it was done to fix the decrease in price in ilbis, why hasn't anything been done with the other stars as well, as I'm sure you're aware that steelies have gone down half and tobis are worth little to nothing?

 

1. Skele drop nerf was meant to address the profits that bishops get at skeles in addition to leech payment. I understand that it can seem very bad before 2-hitting them (due to increased pot cost) but eventually it will not matter much because when you hit 7-8 skeles at one time, the drops will still build up really quickly. It's not a big factor to me personally, even without selling leech. The profit after an hour of grinding was around 1.5m from looting mesos and npc-ing equips (depending on luck). However, I can see it affecting the non-bishops who do train at skeles, especially if they pot lots.

2. Not sure about the drop rate of ilbis at WS. But I think it has less to do with bringing up the price of stars than it has to do with people farming them for hours at a go. It's also a popular leeching spot for bishops (less so these days due to harps) so I suppose it was possibly meant to nerf their earnings. I agree that this has a bigger negative impact, since there are many more players legitly grinding at WS than skeles and the money from ilbis could go a long way in offsetting the pot costs.

tl;dr nerfs (if any) are an attempt at limiting bishops' profits, albeit at a cost to other classes. #BlameBishops

 

I don't get why there's so much nerfing. This is how the game is going to be and this is how its supposed to be. LMPQ nerf, okay fine, ilbi nerf? why even nerf something thats supposed to drop at its normal rate....makes no sense to me.

 

We don't necessarily have normal rates to start with. Mesos and mob etc. drop far more often than in GMS if you noticed.

 

lol @ skeles - any other job beside bishop gets no benefit
even me as an i/l im losing money...
and make some lmpq changes bruh my gunslinger is stuck --;

 

I dont even see ilbis in the market anymore. Nerf it but dont nerf it to the point of extinction.

 

I got 1 set in 9-10 hours of WS. I don't know how it is with others but yeah.

 

Kim break and make ilbi rates higher ? Dam
Plus u forgot dat except Bishop everyone lose tons of mesos on skele train
So what the point making me suffer the entire grind chasing the mesos to be able to train

 

I think if there's a problem with how much Bishops profit (lol, remembering that topic Bishop Syndrome), nerfing drop rates on skeles and other mobs they specifically train on is NOT the answer. Because then, what happens to all the other classes who don't hit 16 mobs at once when they try to train there?

Rather, several ways to deal with this "issue" have already been mentioned. One would be to nerf leeching just so that it's less effective. If you nerf leeching, it should mean less people want to do it, and overall a more fair price for leech/hr is reduced.

Secondly is removing NLC pots. I know they are "GMS-like" as GMS added them in on purpose, but why the hell did they? Just to make NLC some cool place to be? If you look closely at it, you will see the NLC pots just ruin the economy. Before, elixirs and power elixers were potions that had value and needed to be farmed. Now they are made obsolete. Also, consider the fact that with 10,000 MP, one mana bull will recover 6000 MP for only 2,800 mesos. Compare that to a sunset dew, that recovers 5000 MP and costs around 10,200 mesos.

Wouldn't removing NLC pots certainly cut into bishops' (and other very high level people's) profits? Absolutely! And it would only make sense to. As you get higher level, profits just roll in. Either from the high value of equips, plus looting mesos and etc drops, selling scrolls, and add leeching to all that. Maplestory is like most other MMOs in that the rich get richer, the strong have the ability to make money faster. But why provide unlimited %heal potions for dirt cheap? It makes no sense and is completely unnecessary. Without proper potion expenses, this server will be flooded with mesos.

 

lol you all join this server for v62 nostalgia.

This is how it was, bishops do this shit, its a bullshit class i get it, but it was here. Deal or dont.


Also, lowering the drop rates to nerf bishops fucks all of us even more... Just change it back.

Wolf spiders rarely dropped ilbi anyway.

 

The main reason I play this is because this server keeps it this way to the point where it will be a challange for a long long time. If they were to make things easy/easier I wouldnt even be here. I rather play a server where it takes 2 years to get to a point of being godly than 2 months.

 

If you want it to take 2 years to get godly, I don't recommend owning a bishop character.

 

In general it needs to be said that Tobis Steelies AND Illbis droprate have been lowered alltogether, anything else is false information (Source via. droprate changes by Kim)
I honestly think some changes are for the better. GMS wasn't perfect and having lots of Illbis drop for such a low population is not healthy. I'm not sure but wasn't Illbi price 5m max recently? That's really low considering that they were 8m+ a few weeks ago.

 

HAHA AT LIONHEART LMFAO MIGHT AS WELL JUST MAKE THIS GAME INTO A SLAVE CAMP WOO@@@@

ANY POINT OF ADVANTAGE OR FUN SHOULD BE TAKEN AWAY WOO!!!!

 

Removing NLC pots, I don't even, wow.

Just wow.