The current state of this server and its issues.

That sounds boring and tedious... something perfect for devising a program that converts the old script structures into the new structures. At least that's what I'm getting from what is said. Might be possible too.

But yeah, I understand. ^^ Mistakes certainly do happen in these situations.

 

It is mistake after mistake the last few months. Remember Zakum? Still to this day it is not working how it should. Now Horntail is the same shit all over again. Zakum has been an issue 4 months now? Party members getting kicked out ect. I am getting really tired of this. On top of that Kimberly seems to be picking specific portions of the main post to respond to while ignoring others.

I think it is time for Navi to get some people working and testing end game content who actually "know" how things are supposed to be working instead of whats going on now. I am not saying people are not working hard to fix issues but they just don't know enough about the game. After what happened yesterday I am sure of that.

 

you don't have to play here 24/7. get a fucking life buddy

 

You said to me either via Skype or in game (not sure) ToT is ''Done". This was a month ago. The only thing that is not working was the first map to transform into a dragon. Even all the quests were done.
The only thing I am saying. Next time if you change something test it before you release it. If it does not work don't open it and get everyone there hopes up. I and many others wasted a lot of time on Horntail yesterday for something you knew was not working if you would have tested it.

 

You're saying that staff doesn't know how the game is supposed to work... You think they are under the impression a malfunctioning NPC is fine? You're calling out staff without knowing both sides and expecting way too much for a relatively new server with a single, unpaid developer. I'm not sure if you ever saw Royals 5 months after the wipe or launch, but it was a complete disaster. If you think Navi or any other staff member here is slacking, then your standards are too high, because compared to them, this server has an incredibly active and good staff. Also, just as an example, it took above mentioned server a fucking year to get HT up and running, and it's still not as good as it is here right now, because, as Kimberly said, it's custom and therefore buggy. Honestly, the effort you put into HT is nowhere near what we put into HT on Royals and we didn't complain as much. Just learn to be patient and even the tiniest bit of understanding.

As for testing... I agree there should be very specific people around to help with bug testing, but as a tester you have access to new content before others and therefore possess knowledge that others don't and if given out, it can lead to more trouble than waiting longer for things to work at last. Trust is a big issue here.

Edit: Just to be clear, I agree with some/most of what was said by the OP. There could've been at least a notice by staff that things may not work as intended or some prior testing.

 

You and your buddies wasted, what, maybe 2-3 hours each?

Kim and Navi (and other staff) have put in thousands of hours of their free time into the server for our pleasure. Have some respect and put a filter on what you say next time.

 

I hope this will be the last time I post on this topic.

I want to reiterate that I apologize for the buggy run and I acknowledge the hours you wasted trying to organize and execute this run. However, like Kim and other people have stated, we're a relatively young server and the server runs on a completely voluntary staff. We spend a great deal of our free-time working to improve the server and this can't be understated (at least from my perspective).

However, if it wasn't for you guys, we wouldn't be here; therefore, I'm extremely appreciative that you guys have supported us through what I consider to be a darker time period. Regardless, in the end, we are ultimately a private server and our services are free. I don't wish for there to be any misconceptions --the staff is grateful for the player-base that has manifested these past few months. We are working hard and will continue to work hard to make sure we can provide everyone with the best experience we can.

 

I just have 2 more cents to add to the discussion:

1) When you test things, you ought to always test it on the live server in addition to the test server. In fact, might just be a superstition, but there is probably a difference testing things on a GM account compared to testing on a normal account.

2) The next update has been promised and promised with no ETA and few sneak peaks for fear that content will be 'stolen'. The simple solution is not posting the raw images of your new content. Posting screenshots is much harder to rip. And text descriptions of things. How much harm could that do? I should also point out that once the update is released, those lazy servers will be able to steal your content anyway.

3) In regards to the the next rev and who knows when it will come out: it does still seem like you have a lot of work needing to be done and you need the help now.It could be 4-6 more months before this next rev comes out. I don't know, but we haven't been told any estimates! And even from my programming experience, I know you estimate things, and then RL happens and things go wrong, and it takes much longer than anticipated.It just doesn't make any sense to want to wait to get help after you complete a huge/important project.

Even someone that doesn't know all your packet structure or difficult things could still help out by scripting NPCs and such for events. It's simple! Navi works on the important stuff, you have an underling work on the less important priority stuff like events... but in making an event, it still helps keep the playerbase happy.

edit: 4) I also remember suggesting we could at least send out a patch containing things made so far: in particular, the new cosmetics to the cash shop. Yet this hasn't come to fruition yet either...

 

....you know, I can come off as always negative and never positive a lot of times. I do just want to say that I think you guys have done a great job with the server so far. Even despite these recent issues, I'm never questioning my time spent here. Right off the bat, I knew this server was something special when those bugs I typically have seen on every other private server weren't here. It's only just a matter of time before you squish these ones too.

 

I don't see rationality for the level of lashing out at the staff in this thread. They seem to have made a few hiccups here and there, but nothing unforgivable. Not to act like this. Yes, progress has slowed down because Navi evolved from coding robot to a full-functioning humanoid a couple months ago, but Kim and Navi have made it clear, and it is obvious, that they are still putting in a lot of time in to Legends.
This server is still relatively fresh off of the boat. Like Kimberly said, compare the progress here to the progress of every other v62 server in this length of time. Holy shit.
Just try HT again later. I know it's a bitch to get a character to the point of being able to fight HT, but it's not like they're never gonna take care of it. Whoah.

All I can really say is thank you for still being here while I cured my damn drinking problem through the year, haha...

Comcast really grinds my gears. And my wallet.
What's wrong with the guilds/alliances?
I recommend fixing Zak/HT first, out of your to-do list. It would be a good idea to deploy patches for those two, verify that they are no longer malfunctioning with a test party on the live server, and then make an announcement that they are fixed, ASAP. Worry about the other stuff later. I haven't been here much for the last 5 months so I don't know the other reasons why people are so frustrated with you guys, but it seems to me like that would get the most whining out of your ears until you have more time to spend coding. Also, the long-term, loyal, regular players rely on taking down Zak and (attempting) HT for their entertainment here, and we don't wanna lose anyone.
also, ily

 

From personal experience I've found it useful to try and act professional when unexpected server issues occur. You don't see me slagging off MapleLegends when things go wrong on Royals. I'd appreciate if you would do the same and don't, especially with incorrect information. These two quotes are not even very relevant to the thread, the first one when it should have been obvious that AutoAssemble was not enquiring about WZ edits. And the second one is simply a poor taste. You already know how I feel about you claiming that we have "stolen" from you as per our email correspondence the other week. Additionally we have never stated if any of our developers get paid, so I don't know where you got that information from, so it simply looks like you have made it up or are going off rumours to create a stronger comparison with an irrelevant and unprofessional remark.

On a lighter note, I applaud Navi's efforts in how well he's been pushing out bug fixes and development for this server. The players should be proud and appreciate the work he's done so far in such a short space of time.

 

We all appreciate the kind words about Navi and all appreciate the hard work he puts into the server.

If you have any issues with what has been said please handled it in private. You're a part of Royals staff (or the owner I don't really know), it'd be wise to take a little of your own advice and be professional.

 

Love you Navi <3

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