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Pet AP reset scrolls...

Discussion in 'Closed/Resolved' started by Lionheart, Apr 20, 2016.

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    I was talking to a NPC and it mentioned this item. It said it could transfer levels/closeness from one pet to another. I thought it would be a nice thing to do since I only had one pet I liked now.

    But upon "transferring" the exp, it seems both pets' closeness decreased. The pet who was giving up closeness was reset down to 0, and the pet who was supposed to gain that closeness seems to have lost a similar amount as well. So, this little scroll which cost 250k seemed to do the complete opposite of what it's supposed to do.
     
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    Did the pet you were giving closeness to have more closeness than the pet you were taking the closeness from?
     
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    yep.

    I tried to transfer exp from a permanent elephant pet to a crystal rudolph which was dried up. :(
     
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    Well, the closeness isn't supposed to add up to the closeness you already have, as far as I know. It's supposed to give the pet the closeness the other pet had. So there's no point really in transferring closeness to a pet that has more closeness already. :p
     
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    Uh, huh....

    so I guess the question is, why doesn't any NPC or item description explicitly SAY this? All they say is you can "transfer" pet closeness. They never say anything about replacing closeness. If you transfer $10 to your savings account, you don't expect your entire savings to be wiped out and you only are left with $10.

    Second, why is it even coded to let this happen if the first pet's closeness is higher than the second's? If it is supposed to work this way, it should just say it's impossible to do and not screw you over.

    Third, the whole system is stupid. The result I was expecting to get would be exactly the same if only I had known about this thing when I first got my crystal rudolph. ie: transferring pet closeness over immediately when you getting a new pet. Not like that number would break anything.
     
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    As far as I know Navi coded pet AP reset to be GMS-like (I didn't looked it up how it worked there), so perhaps this is how it was in GMS too.
     
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    I'm sure I read somewhere that the closeness would not be added up but replaced. I can't remember where this was, I'll try to look for it later since I'm on mobile right now
     
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    In my opinion it's pretty self-explanatory. They keep talking about transferring it to new pets. Its a system so you don't have to re-train a pet when you buy a new one. It would be kind of weird if you could just train three pets at the same time and then add the closeness of the two pets to the one you actually use. Also, it says 'Scroll of Switch Pet Ability' when you double-click the scroll.

    I just went to check to confirm it actually works the way I said. Transferred the closeness from the Corgi to the Harp Seal.
    Before:
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    After:
    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    I didnt even know this existed, this makes training a -1/min pet a lot easier xD.
     
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    Ok, let's get real here. You're talking about "exploiting the system" when clearly this wasn't even my intention. You also mention it says some other contradictory phrase where perhaps you wouldn't look or assume it's badly translated. Doesn't matter anyway because "switching" does not describe what just happened.

    All I see are a bunch of excuses. The whole thing could be worded better and it could be coded better.
     
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    I'm not accusing you of anything. I'm just saying that it would be weird if you could do that. 'You' as in any person in general.

    Switching describes it pretty well. You switch the closeness from one pet to another. Doesn't always have to be both ways.

    Moved to closed/resolved, since it's working as intended.
     
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    in this context the word "switch" could only mean two-ways. i think there should at least be a wording change.
     
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    Who are you talking to? This?

    [​IMG]
     
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    the thread in general but mostly poof
     
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    If you have a better idea, you can always write a suggestion in the suggestion section.
     
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    Mar the Fairy warns you when you select the transfer option with the scroll and pet ready.

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    Cloy doesn't explicitly mention it when you buy the scroll though:

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    ...but it's arguable that since he says level will be transfered as well as closeness, you can guess the transfer is a replacement, not an addition. If you combined the closeness, the resulting level might have been higher and wouldn't have been a direct transfer of levels.

    This is typical of Neckson, or perhaps is a result of translation precision loss (GMS isn't the best when it comes to retaining meaning after translation), and often players only find out how these things work via forums or word of mouth. Still, when things like these are reported, we can improve on them.
     
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    Well when Mar says, "your new pet will receive your existing pet's closeness and level," it could be understood that it GAINS that closeness. I also see now how looking at it from a different angle, it could also mean "replace", but given that you pay 250k for a scroll and adding up closeness from one pet to another isn't a huge balance issue, it never made sense that this would happen.

    Again, bank account analogy looks great. If the teller says your checking account will receive your saving account's money, common sense dictates that money from your savings account is transferred to and added to your existing checking account balance.
     

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