A good Mesos/Pcoin Sink + Wash solution?

exactly. where there is a will, there is a way. i like your idea as it can be a good way to help regulate the economy in terms of meso sinks

 

I liked alot this idea!

as p. coin can be farmed with common

 

the main problem is that there is no cap to your system, hence everyone can wash to 30k HP without any major setbacks.

if a limit (based from drod $wash command) is implemented to prevent characters from going beyond certain HP, then its fine.

though, personally, i would prefer this solution regarding HP washing: https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/making-hp-washing-truly-optional-a-solution.39773/
as it will still have a time-gating system, rather than buying HP with mesos/p-coin which does not allows washing to be completed very fast by people who have the resource to do so.

 

1. No reasonable project requires 3 years of voting.
2. Sure, but what if I want to wash 4 attackers? Farming 8b takes a longer than voting for a year (for most people)

 

It’s still your choice to do either this or another way. This would also help higher lvl people that just washed for content that was available then. I remember hearing “7.8k for ht tail is the biggest hp you’ll ever need”. Skip forward a few years and suddenly you need 7.5k for ht normal, 9.8k for ht tail, 11.5k for pb, xxxx for auf haven.

Soyea something like this would be a great addition, but I’m afraid most people will think that it’s probably cheaper to buy leech for a new (properly washed) character than doing this.

 

The 3 year timeline that people erroneously keep spreading around is for the full 30k hp to be completed. You can start your character with much less nx and play with full power (base 4 INT) much, much earlier than that. Your character only really needs about 750k nx to efficiently start a 30k project, and to finish the wash and play you need about 2m nx in total. The hardest part of the 30k goal is stale washing about 20k+ worth of HP at a 16:12 hp/mp conversion, which takes 3,875,000+ nx or about 1.5 years of voting.

 

Not to mention how entirely useless 30k ranged is. If you wanna go that far, deal with the struggles

 

Yeah it's unfortunate that people tend to see 30k and sweat like that's the baseline, when at most you need less than half of that(plus HB).

30k projects are supposed to be a meme, not an actual goal for 99% of the player base. I have a bud in game who takes their washing way too seriously, it's a little concerning sometimes, especially considering they're a Bishop(you know who you are, calling you out). Like why you sweating on washing a Priest at this stage in the game.

 

But the people who hold all the p.coins are not going to spent it with wash , they prob already washed, i personally don't like the idea of washing with mesos, a casual player already have a hard time to get average gears, what about if he need spent on wash too? I previously played royals who have similar system, and it sucks in my oppinion (and this will hurt too many players who is keeping coins on the pocket).

 

i started playing on 2nd february of this year, aimed for 19k (overkill on my shad xD) and i'm almost reseting my int, (75% done) and already reseted mp wash, to make your character playable is actually very easy tbh

 

I agree that a huge meso sink is needed, but I don't think it should be tied to washing. Washing as a mechanic is very controversial, but most players would agree to have it removed if there is a good alternative/solution for it.

Tying something else (e.g. meso sink) to washing will make it harder to remove. If washing was ever removed or significantly altered in future, you'd have players saying "but we'll have insane inflation again". Then we'll also have to worry about inflation rates and the economy with any new alternative/solution for washing, on top of however they would've already be impacted.

One of my favourite games introduced its currency sink via limited-edition cosmetic items. The ML version of this would be event cosmetics that cost mesos. This is the exact same idea as Chairs, except it's tied to an NPC so 100% of the mesos spent is taken out of the economy (unlike 2.5% tax with Chairs, which can be 100% avoided if using P.Coins).

Important note: it doesn't have to be an event cosmetic. The idea is that the meso sinks must not provide any real gameplay advantage so that poor or new players do not feel cheated. Event items are just a very easy way to implement meso sinks.

Spoiler: A good example of an existing meso sink

is the option to purchase PQ Boss Monster Cards from Tienk NPC in Night Market. It is completely optional and not at all required to play the game "properly". New players are not at all bothered by it because they are the ones who can completely avoid having to buy it; high-level players (and the ones who can afford it) are the only ones who might need it and would bother with it.

Spoiler: A good example of a potential meso sink is

Love Letters from the recent event which gave players temporary hearts above their characters. So in this example, the items required to exchange for the letters would be a very common drop, but each exchange itself would cost a significant amount of mesos. We already know there are players willing to pay large sums of mesos for the hearts. In this example, those mesos would've gone out of the economy instead.

 

Fusion anvil with a big meso cost would be amazing, then you can keep events the way they are and you don't have to miss out on cosmetics if you're short on mesos during an event.

 

Yes! I have been wanting Fusion Anvils for ages now. There are so many in-game items that look good, but players either can't or won't use them.
Implementing Fusion Anvils is a whole other separate discussion that's probably not suitable in this thread.

Spoiler: Continuing about Fusion Anvils

An example I always bring up is Thief equipment. So many of them are themed after Pirates since they were designed and created in-game before the Pirate class was even a thing. My Corsair is meant to look like a fictional pirate character, but ALL of the suitable hats are Thief hats. Thieves don't even wear it since we all use Zhelm, Scar hat, etc.

Back on-topic regarding meso sinks, other parts of Maple that are potential meso sinks are those that every character goes through once in their Maple-life. This means that whatever it is, any advantage it provides to rich players (or any potential abuse) is severely limited since you can only do it once.

An existing example is 4th Job Advancement, where players can choose to fight Manon and Griffey, or pay 10m to skip it. So this could also apply to other Job Advancements, or things like Zakum Jump Quest.

Keep in mind it doesn't have to be a complete alternative. It could be balanced by being a partial alternative (for lack of a better term). Using the Zakum Jump Quest example, instead of paying mesos to skip the entire Jump Quest, it could be paying mesos to do a simpler version. This applies to any potential part of the game.