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Add more grinding options for lvls 30-70

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by RT, Nov 12, 2020.

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    Taken on 4/20/20.

    This was pre-SI nerf with solo HS, SE, and SI, and it was EPM1, so it's probably closer to 3-4m eph consistently. New players most likely won't be able to reach this eph or this or stomach the pot costs, but the alternatives are there.
    700k eph is low. I was getting around 500k on my lvl 40 fire mage using fire arrows at STDs.

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    I went normal amplifiers at lvl 54 and fancy ones ~60 though. That being said, it's still a good place to train during the first 10+ lvls after 3rd job.
     
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    I mean obviously only an I/L could get that epm regardless.. but point taken. I need to try mannies again
     
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    Fog is also significantly buffed if you are a non cleric mobbing class. Paired with muirhats questline is solid xp. Most mini boss quests offer great xp too. Master chronos are a solid option plus they drop elixirs and helm for dex 60.
    Roids, mu lung area, STDs, muddy banks(also comes with quests in the area), saitis, skeleton commanders, kru/captains, mutaes, voodoos, truckers, jars(have a decent quest too)

    There are actually so many viable options.

    I do agree that running into channels full of leechers is annoying but those are not your only options. Fighting over a GS map is not that efficient(or fun), my main didnt level there at all. Also consider 3 person party grinding at mp3. You are less likely to find leechers there, plus it's faster than soloing any gs map, even without hs. Dont underestimate partying up. 35-75is a great time to explore and is when I did about half of my card hunting(although this is difficult if you are a cleric, in that case a lot of these options are not great) WR also has a buffed map located above the leecher map where you wont run into any bishops. Best of luck
     
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    700k EPH means you're killing 454 mannequins in an hour, or about 8 mannequins a minute. A new player should be able to do much, much more than that. The aggro changes also made mannequins much better suited for single-target range attackers as long as they can 2-shot them. If they can't tank mannequins, they can even go to the map before and grind on perfumes.
    Taipei 101 is busted with the HP-EXP ratio.

    Edit:
    Just ran a quick test with my naked MU mule. One attempt, no planning or map optimization, just mindless attacking on the bottom platform with Lucky 7. A non-naked level 60 sin/hunter should be able to reach these numbers very easily.

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    I will say after some testing myself... those areas are too much for a lvl 61 brawler. I have a zhelm and a pretty good maple weapon and I can barely hit kid mannies. I do appreciate everyones input on the thread tho... but I stand by my initial point that there are not great options for the outlines level range
     
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    Oh you are brawler? Go to fog for sure the spawn is insane. Also doubles as one of the best candy farming maps for event ^^
     
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    This depends on type of class, of course. But warriors/thieves/pirates can actually do *far* better on Cheap Amplifiers than on gs2 after like 60-63.

    WR becomes viable at like 60 for ranged classes.

    Roids become viable at like 55-60 for a few classes too.
     
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    I realised I phrased what I initially wrote badly but when I said 3.2m epm 5 I meant I did a epm 5 and got 3.2m predicted eph.

    I did have my personal hs mule though but we’re still looking at easily 2.5m + solo without one which is much better than grinding at gs2 as long as you can stomach the pot cost.
     
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    Actually Roids and Neo Huroids are lvl 54 and 58 respectively. They could actually be a decent alternative to GS and FoG. The only issue is that the map has a boss that you can't hit.
     
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    But you can hit it... You just need to basic-attack the reactor before it lets you hit it LOL
     
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    I had no clue lol Then that map may very well be a good grind spot
     
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    I think they should add Monster Carnival level 30-50 nice and fun alternative
     
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    Wintrade PQ will not be added :)
     
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    Yeah Monster Carnival isn't the answer, but a lot of good advice in this thread appreciate it guys. Still generally would like to see internet cafe buffed... think its a really fun mechanic. Funny enough I'm 70+ now so I'll have to try these spots next go around.
     

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