Boosting Certain Party Buffs/Self Buffs

I greatly appreciate that the GMs are taking the time to balance out the game and increasing the appeal of certain classes with a low player population. I would also like to take this time to give some balance feed backs that should be considered.

So it is common knowledge in the game that attack buffs do not stack with attack potions. Example: Rage/Warrior elixirs can not stalk. This is also the case with Speed Infusion and Weapon Boosters, but the GM's compensated for this by increasing the the power of Speed Infusion.

I recommend to implement this for classes with unique self buffs/party buffs. Why? All classes have unique attributes they bring to the game and have specific buffs that class can bring to the tables. It ruins the purpose of playing a class if you can substitute it for a potion.

1. The thief class has haste which has great utility and no potion can match its effects.
2. The dark knight class haste Hyper Body, which is vital to keeping a party alive in end game bossing.
3. Buccaneers have Speed Infusion, which overall increases everyone attack rate/damage rate.
4. Archer class has sharp eyes, which is unrivaled in its ability to increase a parties damage.
5. (Surprise) Even paladins have Threaten, which reduces armor by 20%, which is a huge deal in end game bossing.

All of these party buffs mentioned above can not be easily replicated by common pots in the game, with the exception of event potions.

But.....
Heroes have Rage (Currently +15 att) which can be replicated by ciders (+20 att or warrior elixir +12), which in comparison to other party buffs.... is not that useful. Despite the buff on this, I never get asked to "rage" in a late game boss because everyone is using ciders (+20)/bears (+20). The role of a hero as a buffer is replaced by a pot, which destroys the heroes uniqueness or contribution to a class. The attack bonus from rage should be either 20 attack or equivalent to the most common attack pot (Warrior elixir +12) + 10 damage = 22 damage. This would allow heroes to have a unique spot of allowing other party members to free up more Use Space, or an incentive to recruit heroes because they give slightly more damage than the average attack pot.

Mages have Meditate (Currently +20 matt) which can be replicated by Wizard Elixir. This is one of the special cases because the only class that uses Wizard Elixirs is the Bishop tree line. However, a buff should not be on the same level as a common put and thus meditate should at least be buffed to +30 matt (arguable).

Corsairs lack party buffs. Rip.


Now the counter argument that I am aware of:
A majority of the 2nd job buffs are based on utility versus the damage oriented 4th job party buffs. Meditate and Rage are considered damage buffs and thus should be thus weaker. However, the utility buffs retain their usefulness and importance into late game. Rage and Meditate do not carry as well into late game and I repeat can be replicated by a POT. A class party buff should not be on the same level of common pots.

2nd Job Buffs:
Hyper Body
Haste
Threaten
Meditate
Rage

4th Job Party Buffs:
Speed Infusion
Sharp Eyes


Other things that should also be addressed if this goes through are self attack buffs.
Bowmaster's Concentrate (currently 26)
Heroes' Enrage (currently +26)
The current state of affairs with these two skills is..... they are pretty useless. Slightly better than ciders/bears, but have a ridiculously long cool downs.
Solution A: Remove the cool down on these self buffs/lower it by half.
Solution B: Increase the bonus attack damage in order to justify the long cool down on these two skills.
(Warrior elixir 12+ 26 =38 concentrate/enrage.)

Dark Knight's Hex of the Beholder (unsure). Solution:
(Warrior elixir 12 + Hex of the Beholder.)

Please add any comments on any self buffs/party buffs I miss that fails to stack with our current pots.

 

Bumperino

 

O wow then Threaten is pretty useless too then LOL. Okay might want to buff threaten too then

 

Bumperino

 

BUMPERINO

 

. What does apples and stoppers have to do with this? Of course you can not stack it with apples/stoppers. The whole point of this is that these attack buffs do not stack with ANY attack buff. We are talking about to compensate the lack of stacking. Ofc it should not be as strong as stoppers/apples.