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Disable barrel or enable DS in CWKPQ pillar stage

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Raso, Jun 15, 2023.

  1. Raso
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    As title states. Currently buccaneers can barrel through the pillars with no issue, they simply don't get hit. Thieves cannot use their dark sight in this stage, which is...a pretty similar skill no? It seems odd and slightly unfair that one gets to dodge those pesky pillars with no effort, and the others (theoretically thieves should be able to do the same) cant. So I suggest either disabling barrel in CWK pillar stage to make every class suffer somewhat equally, or give thieves their beloved DS functionality back.
     
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  2. Tommygunner
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    I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, but..

    Buccs have one of the worst time jumping at the stage with flames and stirge platforms. Unlike other classes, they have no stance or evade and cant use barrel there.
     
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    I dont disagree, but thats not the stage this suggestion is made for :) Most classes have some form of trouble at these stages, but theyre still all getting hit by everything, except buccs.
     
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    Should dark sight then also get the same movement speed as barrel?
     
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    In my opinion, no. Haste works as intended in the stage (and is pretty much required for some classes). Maxed dark sight works together with haste, raising its speed to match that of haste. Disabling this matching would still be awkward and make no sense as it works in literally any other map. Barrel is NOT the same as dark sight, but in terms of damage immunity, it is.
     
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    Sounds like player skill issue. Stance and avoid is actually annoying in that stage since it's unpredictable.
     
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    In the same stage smoke and avoid can be used to get past the pillars aswell.

    IMO they should always hit like many other JQ hazards do.
     
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    Barrel yields an extra... 2 seconds and a potion over just face tanking through? If we really want to go "eye for an eye" on the cooperative pq though, then remove dark sight, barrel and all mobility outright. Assaulter, corkscrew, flash jump, recoil, wings, teleport, haste, dash.
     
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  9. Tommygunner
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    now THAT sounds like player skill issue. evading 10% is a lot worse than evading 90%
     
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    Ironically, evading 10% is the same as evading 90% of the time, depending on what you're anticipating. It's much easier to anticipate the touch damage and use the iframes rather than anticipating for a miss and then getting knocked back unexpectedly.
     
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    only if it's shadower's DS, NL's continues
     
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    I'm not getting why equality and fairness is needed for JQ stage of cwkpq which isn't competition but just cooperate teamgame.
    OK, so because buccs can avoid pillars with barrel so this is unfair to use 1 red pot for other classes, spending 50 mesos more.

    It's unfair that mages have teleports so they can 'leap that gap' and reach their goal faster than others.
    It's unfair that NLs have FJ so also can leap that gap easier and reach their goal faster.
    It's unfair that Shads with skilled can jumpassult to skip end stage of JQ, reach to portal faster.
    It's unfair that Sairs have recoil shot and wings same logic with NLs.
    It's unfair that archers have speed passive so they don't need hard investment on mobility to jump that gap than other classes, when there's no haste.
    It's unfair that only thief classes have haste when others need to use something, to jump that gap.
    and so many things furthermore.

    or I'm just a weirdo who can't understand why this asking for fairness/equality is needed.
     
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    I see what you mean
     
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    If ds breaks after 1 hit, I’ll allow this
     
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