Make Assassinating Left Head More Lenient

Hmm. I've played two classes that have a few optimizations depending on left head behavior.

BMs can strafe as LH/RH ducks in order to squeeze out a few more lines while you have no target. It's far easier to do it on RH because it telegraphs it using a wind-up animation. On LH you need to be a bit closer to the ledge and need to react within the first few frames as it drops down to make sure your strafe lines hit accordingly. I'm not even sure if it's much of an optimization on left side because it compromises your positioning for wing slap.

NLs can use the middle platform to alternate between LH/MH focus based on slightly different footing. Currently, LH only has 1 attack that blocks your TT from hitting MH which can be counter-played by jump attacking above it. However, if more attacks are added that block MH focus, that platform would be less reliable, and NLs might need to just move to the top platform instead.

I'm indifferent on how things pan out, but I'm just glad someone's talking about HT because it's been long overdue for a rework.

 

The head rotates in a circle and should only attack when it's at the top of the rotation. It's a pretty good "tell" before it attacks so you can either get off a quick attack before it ducks/does whatever else or at the very least not whiff.

 

I've always wondered if nate + bstep on LH and MH does more dmg in practice vs. just nate on MH. I usually just nate MH, even if LH is open because of this issue, especially on runs where MH has higher hp then LH. I've tried Bstep + Bot on LH/MH but BoT just complete misses LH most of the time even when it is not ducking lol. Good thing about left side is that if there is only 1 cleave in the run, you can just jump bstep heads/arm/wings. The most annoying thing is on the right side where even if there is only 1 cleave, nobody wants you to hit right arm because it gets triggered, so cleave is never an option. It would be amazing if they extended the head hit boxes a little so bstep could hit all 3 heads from either side!

 

Coordinating with bishop is a big part of optimizing HT in general. All of the best bishops know when to best utilize their shield, and maximizing b-step time by saving shields for that should be standard bishop play in a comp that has a cleaver. I believe Blen did this in his Hero cleave comp.

If bishops aren't doing this for them, cleavers should just ask for it.

 

I agree with everything my pog shadower friends say

 

I agree with anything any shadower ever says

 

left head HT with nates is very annoying got same experience at zak hands when top arms remain last u cant hit with it at all ,in both cases you force to single target hit but cant use it and losing your value .

i hope to see some platform\hitbox fix for those in the future even a mechanic that could get the full DPM of nates with some tricks that will force the attacker to interact with the animations will be great

 

I feel like the ledges could be slightly tweaked for everyone bc even for cleaves up top there’s a far stretch to reach MH. It’s a risk of falling into the body and potentially dying, also rough for us Drk’s having to control zerk with chaos happening at times. RH I think it fine but the timing with the spells is just a matter of watching animations to queue its next move.