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Making life a little easier

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by ksoh, Feb 28, 2018.

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  1. ksoh
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    ksoh Red Snail

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    Hi everyone,

    A couple of nights ago some friends and I had a conversation about HP Washing over discord. A guildie was teaching my friend the ropes to washing his Assassin. Upon hearing how tedious and expensive the whole process is, the poor guy was pretty discouraged and seems unwilling to continue training his Assassin (lvl58, not washed), until he acquires INT gear with his second character (an Aspiring Bish).

    During the conversation, he suggested something interesting. His suggestion was that, rather than buying single AP reset scrolls, include AP reset bundles (much like gach tickets, owls, etc.) as a NX item. So something like "buy 6 resets for the price of 5". Nothing too crazy.

    I have no idea if this suggestion has been put forward before, I myself have 3 months into this server and enjoying my time here. I am also aware that older players feel rather strongly against making washing easier.

    Would like to know if other players resonate with this, or feel like it's something that should not be implemented. I would also like to stress that this is a suggestion, if you feel strongly against it, please go easy on me. heh

    Thanks everyone, enjoy your day and your mapleling :)
     
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    I LOVE THIS IDEA
     
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    AGGrey Chronos

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    Something similar to this has been suggested before. Basically ppl cry that it isnt fair to those who have already washed. Personally I'm almost finished washing and im 100% fine with this idea.
     
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    ksoh Red Snail

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    I've heard that's the main issue as well, it doesn't have to be super quick but rather feel less "painful", it's like saving for 30 tix gach vs. buying 5 tix everyday.
     
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    I personally don't feel the current ap reset pricing / hp washing extremely painful. I am just enjoying my time and taking it slow. However, I wouldn't against this idea :thumbsup:
     
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    Capricorn Mano

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    it is good, cuz washing aside, some of us *cough* started as a mage and added a good 30 luk. costed about 100k to take out. then there is my other mage with 35 luk to do next.
    having such little help for those cases would also be nice.
     
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    ksoh Red Snail

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    I’m an I/L mage with 19 Luk, so if this gets accepted it works for me too :>
     
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    The HP Washing system is designed in a way to curve the "difficulty spike" of the game. If it is not, then it shouldn't be considered for power scaling bosses, but it is so I will assume my assumption is right. I don't see there being a change for the system, especially after three years. If any change was to come to the system, I would want that change to come in the form of better presentation for the HP washing system, instead of it being a seek-and-find kind of manner.

    Making it be seek-and-find leads to your friends situation and my own current situation. I am level 87, and have no base INT. So what does this mean for me? Even if I add points into INT now and maybe get some INT gear, Horntail might be off limits to me. Even if I can reach the INT goal I need to successfully wash, my Damage will suffer and my ability to level is hindered heavily. So what does that mean now? I have to leech. So if I am unfunded (Which I am) I now have to do what everyone else does, and where I should have started, Make a Cleric.

    It shouldn't be that way, to lead into that situation, but it is. If people can't be expected to read the ToS, or find a basic patch forum, then they shouldn't be expected to find a Guide buried somewhere that instructs them how to HP wash properly. (Which still a lot of the guides are pretty confusing how they are laid out.)

    So that is all I want to change about the system is the transparency of it, because it is a fact hidden. New players looking for a .62 legacy server come here, get excited, make a character, and don't know what they are doing, and yes it is discouraging. I'm sorry your friend is having the issue. At least they caught it earlier than I. Regardless I am going to enjoy my Cleric and level it and kind of ignore Yatayata for a while till I decide what to do with her. I don't want to remake because that is annoying.

    The server is not Pay2win which I enjoy, but I would like to step back slowly from this Leech2win system.
     
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    This is a nice fresh point of view, thanks Yata! Since this post, I've realised that this topic has been thrashed out quite a bit. But yes, super agree that the challenge is what makes it fun. Sorry to hear about your NL, that's rough. Hopefully maybe this whole washing thing will become more salient to new players. :/

    P.S toast coming soon, I haven't had the chance to make brekkie in a while kek
     
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    Zebezian Master Chronos Retired Staff

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    I wish something would be done about washing, but I have pretty much given up any hope of that by this point. OnionGloomy
     
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    Lin Headless Horseman

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    This did happen before, but was then reverted back to its original price.
     
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    Masterg75 Brown Teddy

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    this already suggested miliion times befor. and you can easly wash enough hp for horntail within 2-3 months untill u get to end game boss lvl if u choose to .and we did get 3 choclet per day event thats 1 addinal ap reset per 2 days.
     

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