Maroon Mop's level requrement should be changed

Do 0.55s even exist anymore?

 

Why?

 

No, it's completely different from all of those examples.
Maroon Mops break beginners, not because of the high weapon attack, but because it's a level 36 weapon.
Maroon Mop is good because it's the only shot beginners have at being a viable class at all
Maroon Mop is bad because it gives beginners nothing to look forward to after level 36 (which is a low level regardless of what job you are)

Let's get down to the specifics of your examples.

No, because it isn't a level 36 weapon better than every other weapon after it.

No, not really. If you have the funding (which a normal level 10 won't) then a 7 slot glove is just fine. Potentially it will take months to scroll a perfect BWG. Furthermore, BWGs aren't strong enough to break the entire character. It will just give him a running start.

Correct.

That makes it seem like there are many examples further proving your point, of which there are none.

 

He was talking about the maple equips.

No.

My mistake. What I meant was, it makes them more viable. A little more fun than they were.

You made that point excessively poorly. There is no equip with such a ridiculous gap between its damage and level requirement.

But that's just a glove, and that's different. The only reason BWGs are the best option is because of two extra slots, and white work gloves are more common anyway. White work gloves are only so common because there are no class restrictions. So following this logic, we should get rid of any item without class restrictions. BWG isn't inherently better than any of those weapons, of course a perfectly scrolled item is going to be better than an unscrolled item! A perfect level 20 Fish Spear is going to be better than any weapon until level 70. So why don't we just get rid of scrolling altogether? That just doesn't make any sense.

Yes, but they will be exceedingly rare. Maple Weapons are incredibly overpowered, but this isn't the thread to talk about them. Take that to the Maple Weapons thread.
((EDIT)) Maple Weapon availability is still being debated

That's your own problem.

No. High levelled characters have things to look forward to such as perfecting their gear, and boss runs.

Okay, sure. But then your beginner is level 110 with everything perfect. Now what? Tell me, what's the highest level you've gotten a beginner?

And... grinding to level 100 on a beginner after already having it at level 36 wouldn't be? Are you even reading your own post?

Yep. Which is why the level should be changed instead of the weapon being removed completely.
I don't think your definition of "break" and mine are matching up perfectly here. What I mean by it is that it makes beginners exceedingly boring after level 36, so the item should have its level increased instead of being removed. Having the item too early in the game makes beginners endgame come too easily (and if you're going to say that level 36 is hard for a beginner you're sadly mistaken), but not having it at all is similarly not good because beginners have no booster or mastery. Having a weapon with such a high weapon attack available at the late-game stages for a beginner will give them something to have for the effort put in to the character, other than bragging rights.

I don't understand how someone can possibly disagree with this.

 

Can you change that thread to make it so people can change their vote? I clicked the wrong one ;_;

 

Honestly, I'd rather have it removed completely than stay as it is. Of course I feel like it should stay with a raised level requirement (that's why I made this thread), but in the end it is your call.