Not a Bug [PPQ] Mr. Alli can see through Dark Sight

Kimmy · Aug 26, 2022

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Soblet said: ↑

Thanks I always wondered what happened there. It does seem like HH did not attack players in dark sight in GMS but strictly following GMS (or any other official version of maple) doesn't seem like the way to go anyway.
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That's because in GMS they never gave HH magic attacks, thus the elemental resistance fails. Seems the connection is when I fixed 1 bug it introduced an other side effect with it

UnknownCode · Aug 27, 2022

Kimberly said: ↑

But he claims this doesn't occur in "all other servers he played" so do we do it correctly or wrong? Probably still need check how GMS handled auto aggro while in dark sight.
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The mobs that have magic attacks that have auto aggro would still hit even in Dark Sight but thats only if someone else hit the monster, if the Dark Sight user are by themself and hit the monster then use Dark Sight the monster will still hit the player. However if the Dark Sight user does not attack and the monster that has auto aggro they will behave how the Monks behaved in the gif they provided but thats only because those are regular monsters.

PPQ as Nise mentioned aren't regular mobs

Nise said: ↑

Actually Kimberly I got tired of this bickering and looked into it, and I found out what confused OP.

The mobs in question are the enraged/furious versions:

https://maplelegends.com/lib/monster?id=9300120

https://maplelegends.com/lib/monster?id=9300116

https://maplelegends.com/lib/monster?id=9300115

I'm not listing all of them, because they're functionally the same, so long as they have the auto-aggro property. First off, OP's statement of "true sight" or whatever does not exist. The only difference between mobs is auto-aggro vs. normal aggro. Auto-aggro is proximity based, meaning even if you are in dark sight as long as you're within range, the mob will start attacking. Best example being PB over here:

Upon spawning it will immediately start casting skills and attacking as I am within it's range to be aggroed (hence auto aggro). For normal aggro mobs, unless you hit them, they won't bother you. So how this information relate to the Kru/Ali debate? Well, all the enraged/furious versions have auto-aggro, this means that even if you are in dark sight they will immediately target you.

BUT the difference between these mobs have to do with the skills and attacks they have. Mr. Alli has a ranged magic attack that it can cast. Even if you are in dark sight, these type of attacks can target and hit you. Kru and Captain on the other hand only have a melee physical attack that it can cast and no skills. These type of physical and melee attacks cannot target those in dark sight (sort of like how you don't take touch damage). This is why even though it is aggroed to you, it will look like it isn't.

This is why the concept of "true sight" is incorrect, cus they definitely do see you. Furthermore, in their mind while they can't touch you, they do want to kill you with every fiber of their being.

Hopefully this clears it up for everyone on this thread.
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But since those Mr.Alli and Kru/Captain in PPQ aren't regular monsters but Enraged/Furious they should both hit the Dark Sight user regardless of them being attacked.

Nise said: ↑

Kru and Captain on the other hand only have a melee physical attack that it can cast and no skills. These type of physical and melee attacks cannot target those in dark sight (sort of like how you don't take touch damage).
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The Dark Sight user should still get hit by Enraged/Furious monsters even if melee, it just smacks them like normal, but in an Enraged/Furious way, which imho sounds like a bug if they don't behave that way.

Wyrmdragon · Sep 21, 2022

Could we change the tooltip to make it more clear what this skill actually does?
https://maplelegends.com/lib/skill?id=4001003

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