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Windows 8/8.1/10 Random crashes - sound_dx8?

Discussion in 'Technical Issues' started by mushr00m, Jan 26, 2024.

  1. mushr00m
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    Jan 26, 2024
    11:15 PM
    muesligood
    I/L Wizard
    Hi everyone,

    My game has started to crash randomly after a few minutes of gameplay. Usually happens when I change maps / channels, and but entering the map works fine again after restarting the client.

    Also randomly crashed while I was doing LPQ. Keen to get some help with this issue! Seems to potentially be a problem with SOUND_DX8.dll. On crash, the client screen goes black and is 'Not responding' in Task manager. It never crashes to an error displayed in a messagebox unfortunately. Crash logs are below.

    Code:
    --------------------------------------------------
    
    [1.22.0 Win] - [2024-01-26 22:58:47]
    Exception code: 000006F8
    Exception address: 760CFA72
    Base: 6A080000
    
    Call stack:
    77331020
    000006F8
    0025E000
    00000000
    00000000
    054BF6D0
    760CFA72 (KERNELBASE.dll)
    762932BE (RPCRT4.dll)
    76293786 (RPCRT4.dll)
    762AC6EB (RPCRT4.dll)
    7733797D (cfgmgr32.dll)
    7733729F (cfgmgr32.dll)
    77337133 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    6941CA6E (MMDevApi.dll)
    6941CA08 (MMDevApi.dll)
    69308B4C (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    6930ED99 (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    69424E70 (MMDevApi.dll)
    64526FC3 (dsound.dll)
    64519FA2 (dsound.dll)
    76D6FCC9 (KERNEL32.DLL)
    773E7C6E (ntdll.dll)
    773E7C3E (ntdll.dll)
    --------------------------------------------------
    
    [1.22.0 Win] - [2024-01-26 22:58:47]
    Exception code: 000006F8
    Exception address: 760CFA72
    Base: 6A080000
    
    Call stack:
    0F40D890
    000006F8
    00231000
    00000000
    0F40D894
    0019ED40
    760CFA72 (KERNELBASE.dll)
    762932BE (RPCRT4.dll)
    762DD424 (RPCRT4.dll)
    77337BA8 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    7733729F (cfgmgr32.dll)
    77337133 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    6941CA6E (MMDevApi.dll)
    6941CA08 (MMDevApi.dll)
    69308B4C (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    6930ED99 (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    69424E70 (MMDevApi.dll)
    64525DB0 (dsound.dll)
    6452536C (dsound.dll)
    6450F6BC (dsound.dll)
    6451685F (dsound.dll)
    645165DB (dsound.dll)
    518041A2 (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    51803A79 (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    00828C2A
    00827A01
    --------------------------------------------------
    
    [1.22.0 Win] - [2024-01-26 22:58:48]
    Exception code: 000006F8
    Exception address: 760CFA72
    Base: 6A080000
    
    Call stack:
    00000000
    000006F8
    00231000
    00000000
    00000000
    0019ED40
    760CFA72 (KERNELBASE.dll)
    762932BE (RPCRT4.dll)
    762DD559 (RPCRT4.dll)
    77337BA8 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    7733729F (cfgmgr32.dll)
    77337133 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    6941CA6E (MMDevApi.dll)
    6941CA08 (MMDevApi.dll)
    69308B4C (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    6930ED99 (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    69424E70 (MMDevApi.dll)
    64525DB0 (dsound.dll)
    6452536C (dsound.dll)
    6450F6BC (dsound.dll)
    6451685F (dsound.dll)
    645165DB (dsound.dll)
    518041A2 (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    51803A79 (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    00828C2A
    00827A01
    --------------------------------------------------
    
    [1.22.0 Win] - [2024-01-26 22:58:48]
    Exception code: 000006F8
    Exception address: 760CFA72
    Base: 6A080000
    
    Call stack:
    0F40D718
    000006F8
    00231000
    00000000
    0F40D71C
    0019ED28
    760CFA72 (KERNELBASE.dll)
    762932BE (RPCRT4.dll)
    762DD424 (RPCRT4.dll)
    77337BA8 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    7733729F (cfgmgr32.dll)
    77337133 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    6941CA6E (MMDevApi.dll)
    6941CA08 (MMDevApi.dll)
    69308B4C (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    6930ED99 (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    69424E70 (MMDevApi.dll)
    64525DB0 (dsound.dll)
    64527E0F (dsound.dll)
    6450F652 (dsound.dll)
    6450F75B (dsound.dll)
    6451685F (dsound.dll)
    645165DB (dsound.dll)
    518041A2 (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    51803A79 (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    00828C2A
    --------------------------------------------------
    
    [1.22.0 Win] - [2024-01-26 22:58:48]
    Exception code: 000006F8
    Exception address: 760CFA72
    Base: 6A080000
    
    Call stack:
    00000000
    000006F8
    00231000
    00000000
    00000000
    0019ED28
    760CFA72 (KERNELBASE.dll)
    762932BE (RPCRT4.dll)
    762DD559 (RPCRT4.dll)
    77337BA8 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    7733729F (cfgmgr32.dll)
    77337133 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    6941CA6E (MMDevApi.dll)
    6941CA08 (MMDevApi.dll)
    69308B4C (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    6930ED99 (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    69424E70 (MMDevApi.dll)
    64525DB0 (dsound.dll)
    64527E0F (dsound.dll)
    6450F652 (dsound.dll)
    6450F75B (dsound.dll)
    6451685F (dsound.dll)
    645165DB (dsound.dll)
    518041A2 (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    51803A79 (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    00828C2A
    --------------------------------------------------
    
    [1.22.0 Win] - [2024-01-26 22:58:48]
    Exception code: 000006F8
    Exception address: 760CFA72
    Base: 6A080000
    
    Call stack:
    77331020
    000006F8
    00231000
    00000000
    00000000
    0019ED28
    760CFA72 (KERNELBASE.dll)
    762932BE (RPCRT4.dll)
    76293786 (RPCRT4.dll)
    762AC6EB (RPCRT4.dll)
    7733797D (cfgmgr32.dll)
    7733729F (cfgmgr32.dll)
    77337133 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    6941CA6E (MMDevApi.dll)
    6941CA08 (MMDevApi.dll)
    69308B4C (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    6930ED99 (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    69424E70 (MMDevApi.dll)
    64525DB0 (dsound.dll)
    64525FEB (dsound.dll)
    64516AEC (dsound.dll)
    645163F0 (dsound.dll)
    645048E3 (dsound.dll)
    64516AA4 (dsound.dll)
    64511848 (dsound.dll)
    645115FB (dsound.dll)
    --------------------------------------------------
    
    [1.22.0 Win] - [2024-01-26 22:58:48]
    Exception code: 000006F8
    Exception address: 760CFA72
    Base: 6A080000
    
    Call stack:
    77331020
    000006F8
    00231000
    00000000
    00000000
    0019ED28
    760CFA72 (KERNELBASE.dll)
    762932BE (RPCRT4.dll)
    76293786 (RPCRT4.dll)
    762AC6EB (RPCRT4.dll)
    7733797D (cfgmgr32.dll)
    7733729F (cfgmgr32.dll)
    77337133 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    6941CA6E (MMDevApi.dll)
    6941CA08 (MMDevApi.dll)
    69308B4C (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    6930ED99 (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    69424E70 (MMDevApi.dll)
    64525DB0 (dsound.dll)
    64525FEB (dsound.dll)
    64516B45 (dsound.dll)
    645163F0 (dsound.dll)
    645048E3 (dsound.dll)
    64516AA4 (dsound.dll)
    64511848 (dsound.dll)
    645115FB (dsound.dll)
    --------------------------------------------------
    
    [1.22.0 Win] - [2024-01-26 22:58:49]
    Exception code: 000006F8
    Exception address: 760CFA72
    Base: 6A080000
    
    Call stack:
    77331020
    000006F8
    00231000
    00000000
    00000000
    0019ED18
    760CFA72 (KERNELBASE.dll)
    762932BE (RPCRT4.dll)
    76293786 (RPCRT4.dll)
    762AC6EB (RPCRT4.dll)
    7733797D (cfgmgr32.dll)
    7733729F (cfgmgr32.dll)
    77337133 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    6941CA6E (MMDevApi.dll)
    6941CA08 (MMDevApi.dll)
    69308B4C (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    6930ED99 (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    69424E70 (MMDevApi.dll)
    64525DB0 (dsound.dll)
    64526D06 (dsound.dll)
    64516B73 (dsound.dll)
    645163F0 (dsound.dll)
    645048E3 (dsound.dll)
    64516AA4 (dsound.dll)
    64511848 (dsound.dll)
    645115FB (dsound.dll)
    --------------------------------------------------
    
    [1.22.0 Win] - [2024-01-26 22:58:58]
    Exception code: 000006F8
    Exception address: 760CFA72
    Base: 6A080000
    
    Call stack:
    77331020
    000006F8
    00231000
    00000000
    00000000
    0019EBF0
    760CFA72 (KERNELBASE.dll)
    762932BE (RPCRT4.dll)
    76293786 (RPCRT4.dll)
    762AC6EB (RPCRT4.dll)
    7733797D (cfgmgr32.dll)
    7733729F (cfgmgr32.dll)
    77337133 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    6941CA6E (MMDevApi.dll)
    6941CA08 (MMDevApi.dll)
    69308B4C (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    6930ED99 (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    69424E70 (MMDevApi.dll)
    64525DB0 (dsound.dll)
    6452540C (dsound.dll)
    6450FBCB (dsound.dll)
    6450F84E (dsound.dll)
    64516175 (dsound.dll)
    645161CE (dsound.dll)
    64500684 (dsound.dll)
    5180B21D (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    --------------------------------------------------
    
    [1.22.0 Win] - [2024-01-26 22:58:58]
    Exception code: 000006F8
    Exception address: 760CFA72
    Base: 6A080000
    
    Call stack:
    0F4204B8
    000006F8
    00231000
    00000000
    0F4204BC
    0019ED60
    760CFA72 (KERNELBASE.dll)
    762932BE (RPCRT4.dll)
    762DD424 (RPCRT4.dll)
    77337BA8 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    7733729F (cfgmgr32.dll)
    77337133 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    6941CA6E (MMDevApi.dll)
    6941CA08 (MMDevApi.dll)
    69308B4C (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    6930ED99 (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    69424E70 (MMDevApi.dll)
    64525DB0 (dsound.dll)
    645284EE (dsound.dll)
    6450DF6C (dsound.dll)
    6450DD4C (dsound.dll)
    5180C288 (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    51809EBB (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    0045B1E4
    00597104
    0059699C
    --------------------------------------------------
    
    [1.22.0 Win] - [2024-01-26 22:58:58]
    Exception code: 000006F8
    Exception address: 760CFA72
    Base: 6A080000
    
    Call stack:
    00000000
    000006F8
    00231000
    00000000
    00000000
    0019ED60
    760CFA72 (KERNELBASE.dll)
    762932BE (RPCRT4.dll)
    762DD559 (RPCRT4.dll)
    77337BA8 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    7733729F (cfgmgr32.dll)
    77337133 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    6941CA6E (MMDevApi.dll)
    6941CA08 (MMDevApi.dll)
    69308B4C (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    6930ED99 (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    69424E70 (MMDevApi.dll)
    64525DB0 (dsound.dll)
    645284EE (dsound.dll)
    6450DF6C (dsound.dll)
    6450DD4C (dsound.dll)
    5180C288 (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    51809EBB (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    0045B1E4
    00597104
    0059699C
    --------------------------------------------------
    
    [1.22.0 Win] - [2024-01-26 22:58:58]
    Exception code: 000006F8
    Exception address: 760CFA72
    Base: 6A080000
    
    Call stack:
    0F4204B8
    000006F8
    00231000
    00000000
    0F4204BC
    0019ED70
    760CFA72 (KERNELBASE.dll)
    762932BE (RPCRT4.dll)
    762DD424 (RPCRT4.dll)
    77337BA8 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    7733729F (cfgmgr32.dll)
    77337133 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    6941CA6E (MMDevApi.dll)
    6941CA08 (MMDevApi.dll)
    69308B4C (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    6930ED99 (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    69424E70 (MMDevApi.dll)
    64525DB0 (dsound.dll)
    64528670 (dsound.dll)
    6450F0CA (dsound.dll)
    6450EFE3 (dsound.dll)
    5180C1BD (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    5180C2BE (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    51809EBB (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    0045B1E4
    00597104
    --------------------------------------------------
    
    [1.22.0 Win] - [2024-01-26 22:58:59]
    Exception code: 000006F8
    Exception address: 760CFA72
    Base: 6A080000
    
    Call stack:
    00000000
    000006F8
    00231000
    00000000
    00000000
    0019ED70
    760CFA72 (KERNELBASE.dll)
    762932BE (RPCRT4.dll)
    762DD559 (RPCRT4.dll)
    77337BA8 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    7733729F (cfgmgr32.dll)
    77337133 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    6941CA6E (MMDevApi.dll)
    6941CA08 (MMDevApi.dll)
    69308B4C (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    6930ED99 (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    69424E70 (MMDevApi.dll)
    64525DB0 (dsound.dll)
    64528670 (dsound.dll)
    6450F0CA (dsound.dll)
    6450EFE3 (dsound.dll)
    5180C1BD (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    5180C2BE (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    51809EBB (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    0045B1E4
    00597104
    --------------------------------------------------
    
    [1.22.0 Win] - [2024-01-26 22:58:59]
    Exception code: 000006F8
    Exception address: 760CFA72
    Base: 6A080000
    
    Call stack:
    0F4204B8
    000006F8
    00231000
    00000000
    0F4204BC
    0019ECE0
    760CFA72 (KERNELBASE.dll)
    762932BE (RPCRT4.dll)
    762DD424 (RPCRT4.dll)
    77337BA8 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    7733729F (cfgmgr32.dll)
    77337133 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    6941CA6E (MMDevApi.dll)
    6941CA08 (MMDevApi.dll)
    69308B4C (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    6930ED99 (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    69424E70 (MMDevApi.dll)
    64525DB0 (dsound.dll)
    645284EE (dsound.dll)
    6450DF6C (dsound.dll)
    6450DD4C (dsound.dll)
    5180BFD7 (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    5180C1F5 (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    5180C2BE (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    51809EBB (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    0045B1E4
    --------------------------------------------------
    
    [1.22.0 Win] - [2024-01-26 22:58:59]
    Exception code: 000006F8
    Exception address: 760CFA72
    Base: 6A080000
    
    Call stack:
    00000000
    000006F8
    00231000
    00000000
    00000000
    0019ECE0
    760CFA72 (KERNELBASE.dll)
    762932BE (RPCRT4.dll)
    762DD559 (RPCRT4.dll)
    77337BA8 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    7733729F (cfgmgr32.dll)
    77337133 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    6941CA6E (MMDevApi.dll)
    6941CA08 (MMDevApi.dll)
    69308B4C (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    6930ED99 (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    69424E70 (MMDevApi.dll)
    64525DB0 (dsound.dll)
    645284EE (dsound.dll)
    6450DF6C (dsound.dll)
    6450DD4C (dsound.dll)
    5180BFD7 (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    5180C1F5 (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    5180C2BE (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    51809EBB (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    0045B1E4
    --------------------------------------------------
    
    [1.22.0 Win] - [2024-01-26 22:58:59]
    Exception code: 000006F8
    Exception address: 760CFA72
    Base: 6A080000
    
    Call stack:
    0F4204B8
    000006F8
    00231000
    00000000
    0F4204BC
    0019ED60
    760CFA72 (KERNELBASE.dll)
    762932BE (RPCRT4.dll)
    762DD424 (RPCRT4.dll)
    77337BA8 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    7733729F (cfgmgr32.dll)
    77337133 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    6941CA6E (MMDevApi.dll)
    6941CA08 (MMDevApi.dll)
    69308B4C (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    6930ED99 (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    69424E70 (MMDevApi.dll)
    64525DB0 (dsound.dll)
    64528670 (dsound.dll)
    6450F0CA (dsound.dll)
    6451028B (dsound.dll)
    645101BF (dsound.dll)
    5180C37D (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    51809EBB (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    0045B1E4
    00597104
    --------------------------------------------------
    
    [1.22.0 Win] - [2024-01-26 22:59:00]
    Exception code: 000006F8
    Exception address: 760CFA72
    Base: 6A080000
    
    Call stack:
    00000000
    000006F8
    00231000
    00000000
    00000000
    0019ED60
    760CFA72 (KERNELBASE.dll)
    762932BE (RPCRT4.dll)
    762DD559 (RPCRT4.dll)
    77337BA8 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    7733729F (cfgmgr32.dll)
    77337133 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    6941CA6E (MMDevApi.dll)
    6941CA08 (MMDevApi.dll)
    69308B4C (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    6930ED99 (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    69424E70 (MMDevApi.dll)
    64525DB0 (dsound.dll)
    64528670 (dsound.dll)
    6450F0CA (dsound.dll)
    6451028B (dsound.dll)
    645101BF (dsound.dll)
    5180C37D (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    51809EBB (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    0045B1E4
    00597104
    --------------------------------------------------
    
    [1.22.0 Win] - [2024-01-26 22:59:00]
    Exception code: 000006F8
    Exception address: 760CFA72
    Base: 6A080000
    
    Call stack:
    0F4204B8
    000006F8
    00231000
    00000000
    0F4204BC
    0019ED70
    760CFA72 (KERNELBASE.dll)
    762932BE (RPCRT4.dll)
    762DD424 (RPCRT4.dll)
    77337BA8 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    7733729F (cfgmgr32.dll)
    77337133 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    6941CA6E (MMDevApi.dll)
    6941CA08 (MMDevApi.dll)
    69308B4C (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    6930ED99 (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    69424E70 (MMDevApi.dll)
    64525DB0 (dsound.dll)
    64528670 (dsound.dll)
    64510C33 (dsound.dll)
    645102E8 (dsound.dll)
    645101BF (dsound.dll)
    5180C37D (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    51809EBB (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    0045B1E4
    00597104
    --------------------------------------------------
    
    [1.22.0 Win] - [2024-01-26 22:59:00]
    Exception code: 000006F8
    Exception address: 760CFA72
    Base: 6A080000
    
    Call stack:
    00000000
    000006F8
    00231000
    00000000
    00000000
    0019ED70
    760CFA72 (KERNELBASE.dll)
    762932BE (RPCRT4.dll)
    762DD559 (RPCRT4.dll)
    77337BA8 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    7733729F (cfgmgr32.dll)
    77337133 (cfgmgr32.dll)
    6941CA6E (MMDevApi.dll)
    6941CA08 (MMDevApi.dll)
    69308B4C (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    6930ED99 (AUDIOSES.DLL)
    69424E70 (MMDevApi.dll)
    64525DB0 (dsound.dll)
    64528670 (dsound.dll)
    64510C33 (dsound.dll)
    645102E8 (dsound.dll)
    645101BF (dsound.dll)
    5180C37D (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    51809EBB (SOUND_DX8.DLL)
    0045B1E4
    00597104
    --------------------------------------------------
    
    [1.22.0 Win] - [2024-01-26 23:01:08]
    Exception code: C0000005
    Exception address: 6AA89298
    Base: 6A080000
    
    Call stack:
    204C0648
    00ED0000
    00ED000C
    00000020
    00000000
    0000001C
    6AA89298
    6AA49E68
    75263968
    75263404
    752648C0
    7525F3B9
    7525FFF9
    6A09CC90
    75243271
    00827B0E
    008265E4
    008236E2
    0087CABF
    76D6FCC9
    773E7C6E
    773E7C3E
    --------------------------------------------------
    
    [1.22.0 Win] - [2024-01-26 23:01:08]
    Exception code: C0000005
    Exception address: 6A09CC96
    Base: 6A080000
    
    Call stack:
    6A09CC10
    20A60184
    00000000
    00000000
    00000600
    00000000
    6A09CC96
    75243271
    00827B0E
    008265E4
    008236E2
    0087CABF
    76D6FCC9
    773E7C6E
    773E7C3E
    --------------------------------------------------
    
    [1.22.0 Win] - [2024-01-26 23:01:08]
    Exception code: C0000005
    Exception address: 6AA897A8
    Base: 6A080000
    
    Call stack:
    0000011C
    204BC014
    204BC130
    34363043
    000204BD
    1B44AF1C
    6AA897A8
    6AA89327
    6AA49E68
    6DCDE1B8
    6DDAD804
    6DCE31AC
    6DCE699C
    6DDE18B8
    6DDE2D34
    6DCDDE04
    6DCDDBCE
    006745DB
    00673E98
    00673C9C
    00673C07
    77408AB2
    --------------------------------------------------
    
    [1.22.0 Win] - [2024-01-26 23:01:09]
    Exception code: C0000005
    Exception address: 5040791B
    Base: 6A080000
    
    Call stack:
    00000000
    20ACD004
    0F401790
    00000000
    20ACD004
    204BEFC0
    5040791B
    504072D0
    50407294
    50003B32
    5040C9FC
    50406B69
    0043BBB5
    0082672F
    0082604C
    0087E2C7
    0087CABF
    76D6FCC9
    773E7C6E
    773E7C3E
    --------------------------------------------------
    
    [1.22.0 Win] - [2024-01-26 23:01:10]
    Exception code: C0000005
    Exception address: 50404F58
    Base: 6A080000
    
    Call stack:
    19930522
    00000005
    00000004
    00000000
    1FFFFFFF
    204BEFC0
    50404F58
    50407294
    50003B32
    5040C9FC
    50406B69
    0043BBB5
    0082672F
    0082604C
    0087E2C7
    0087CABF
    76D6FCC9
    773E7C6E
    773E7C3E
     
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    mushr00m
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    mushr00m Blue Snail

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    Jan 26, 2024
    11:15 PM
    muesligood
    I/L Wizard
    all good, turned compatibility mode off and it works again
     

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