1. Hello!

    First of all, welcome to MapleLegends! You are currently viewing the forums as a guest, so you can only view the first post of every topic. We highly recommend registering so you can be part of our community.

    By registering to our forums you can introduce yourself and make your first friends, talk in the shoutbox, contribute, and much more!

    This process only takes a few minutes and you can always decide to lurk even after!

    - MapleLegends Administration-
  2. Experiencing disconnecting after inserting your login info? Make sure you are on the latest MapleLegends version. The current latest version is found by clicking here.
    Dismiss Notice

The Reason people bot.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Shrek, Apr 3, 2015.

  1. Shrek
    Offline

    Shrek Capt. Latanica

    319
    147
    273
    Mar 30, 2015
    New Yawwwkkkkkk
    3:28 PM
    NurseJoy
    Before we start; for all of you who do not know what botting is; let me give you a run down.

    1. An Internet bot, also known as web robot, WWW robot or simply bot, is a software application that runs automated tasks over the Internet. Typically, bots perform tasks that are both simple and structurally repetitive, at a much higher rate than would be possible for a human alone; i.e. Macros, Programs, etc.

      Now, while people DO bot on MapleStory, we have to ask ourselves : Why?

      It cannot be simply because "They want to achieve a higher level".

      I myself, will admit I used to bot, and hack on GMS back in the day.
      But why?

      Well, for one thing; I felt that I did not have anyone to train with, or anything like that.
      I felt as if it was bland, and boring.

      Now, this is just an idea; but lets say someone is caught Botting.
      Now, what are the things you can do?

      1. (If you're a GM) Ban them.
      2. Reason with them.

      Ask them why they feel the need to bot.
      Perhaps they cannot make any friends, or simply don't have anyone to train with.
      This scenario DOES happen a lot, and while you may be thinking "OH THEY'RE JUST LAZY AND DON'T WANT TO LEVEL"; This is not always the case.

      Now, I'm not speaking 100% from personal experience,
      But if a GM finds someone botting, perhaps just throwing down the ban hammer may be too sudden.
      Someone awhile ago, once told me "I do not believe in bans, I believe people have a reason for doing what they do, and if you can talk to them, and help them, they can break the habit."

      Perhaps if someone is botting, a GM can simply ask the community "Does anyone want to train with "____"?

      That will perhaps help the person make friends, and it solves a lot of problems rather than simply entering a command and banning them.

      It's like prison.
      It doesn't solve much, and they're more than likely going to do it again, but try to be more secretive.

      Anyway, this is just my way of thinking.
      I like to think outside the box, and try and solve things peacefully.

      This, however may not apply to a hacker-- because a hacker is going out of their way to ruin the game for everyone with illegal things. (and yes, I know botting is illegal too, but hacking just seems more extensive.)

      Anyway, just food for though.
      What do you guys think?
     
    • Like Like x 2
  2. Neko
    Offline

    Neko Wolfspider

    553
    660
    331
    Dec 26, 2014
    9:28 PM
    Neko / Inumimi lvl 6x BM
    Bishop
    163
    Project <3
    this pretty much sums up my own experience with hacking( was hard to quit hacking as i still couldn`t find people to train with ), even got good at not being noticed in the end (x * i know what hacks to use if you want to look like a legit and stuffs *
    heard people say things like, once a hacker always a hacker but this is not always the case... as it gets quite boring to hack for a long time to

    but il have to also say that some people probly hack due to being lazy MapleF8
     
  3. OP
    OP
    Shrek
    Offline

    Shrek Capt. Latanica

    319
    147
    273
    Mar 30, 2015
    New Yawwwkkkkkk
    3:28 PM
    NurseJoy
    That always bothered me, too.
    People don't hack because they hack, they hack because they don't really have anyone to hang with, and don't feel included.
     
  4. NSFW
    Offline

    NSFW Skelegon

    918
    762
    409
    Dec 11, 2014
    12:28 PM
    NSFW
    What it comes down to is the fact that they're putting in less work than everyone else but getting the same rewards. There's really no further need for a ban than this.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  5. OP
    OP
    Shrek
    Offline

    Shrek Capt. Latanica

    319
    147
    273
    Mar 30, 2015
    New Yawwwkkkkkk
    3:28 PM
    NurseJoy
    I know, but do you at least see the point I'm trying to make?
     
  6. NSFW
    Offline

    NSFW Skelegon

    918
    762
    409
    Dec 11, 2014
    12:28 PM
    NSFW
    I do, yeah. I understand that everyone has their reasons for doing what they do, I'm just saying that regarding botting and hacking the reasons don't matter. You shouldn't do things if you're not willing to deal with the consequences. I have a pretty long history of botting and hacking on gms and private servers and I've gotten banned most of the time, 100% rightfully so. The reasons don't matter, what matters is that you're gaining an unfair edge.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  7. Midnight
    Offline

    Midnight Skelegon

    945
    662
    413
    Jan 2, 2015
    3:28 PM
    Midnight/TheMorrigan
    Dragon Knight, Assassin
    120
    WeenieHutJrs
    Less penalty= more crime
     
    • Like Like x 6
  8. Samcity
    Offline

    Samcity Blue Snail

    4
    2
    13
    Feb 23, 2015
    Male
    Forest of Golem
    9:28 PM
    How naive MapleF2... there is no point in hacking on a server like this, it's been made for people who just simply enjoy the game, hackers would only corrupt the server, they always have been.
    didn't you know? MapleF7
     
    Last edited: Apr 4, 2015
  9. Fiona
    Offline

    Fiona Red Snail

    9
    6
    16
    Apr 7, 2015
    Male
    3:28 PM
    Hero
    This is the most retarded thing I have ever read in my entire life, in fact I think you just gave me the highest degree of autism.

    So people bot not because they want to level faster, but because they are lonely? And we should combat this by not banning them, but instead, making the GM ask everybody to train with said botter? FUCK YOUR STUPID. HOLY SHIT. LOL.

    I highly doubt that.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  10. Ghost
    Offline

    Ghost Dark Stone Golem

    143
    127
    151
    Jan 10, 2015
    Male
    Georgia
    3:28 PM
    People bot because they want to be high level without doing putting in all the time and that's about the only reason. If you're lonely and bored on a game, wouldn't you just... stop playing? Bot or not you're still away from the keyboard not playing so the only incentive for botting is that you gain levels while not playing. Which is unfair and therefore warrants a ban.
     
  11. Midnight
    Offline

    Midnight Skelegon

    945
    662
    413
    Jan 2, 2015
    3:28 PM
    Midnight/TheMorrigan
    Dragon Knight, Assassin
    120
    WeenieHutJrs
    ...wut
     
    • Like Like x 1
  12. NSFW
    Offline

    NSFW Skelegon

    918
    762
    409
    Dec 11, 2014
    12:28 PM
    NSFW
    kekeroo
     
  13. Gi
    Offline

    Gi Windraider

    415
    726
    307
    Dec 29, 2014
    Male
    9:28 PM
    (Shrek & Fiona) Oi, looks like there's trouble in paradise.
     
    • Like Like x 3
    • Funny Funny x 2
  14. NSFW
    Offline

    NSFW Skelegon

    918
    762
    409
    Dec 11, 2014
    12:28 PM
    NSFW
    Looks like their relationship might be ogre soon
     
    • Like Like x 5
  15. ROFLS
    Offline

    ROFLS Mushmom

    50
    42
    55
    Jan 9, 2015
    3:28 PM
    Like many others in this thread, I disagree with Shrek's premise that loneliness is the reason people turn to botting. However, I think there is an important conversation to be had here, and I think it would be very unfortunate if this opportunity was missed.

    Regardless of the what compels someone to cheat, I would like to argue that these actions should not be interpreted as a blight upon an individual's true moral character. At the end of the day, Maplestory is just a game -- and most people do not consider cheating in a game to be a violation of moral principals. Yes, for this game to be fully enjoyable, I agree that we must protect the server's integrity as a seamless "virtual world," rather than malleable code that can be disrupted at will.

    However, nearly everyone who has spent a significant amount of time on any server has had friends who ended up cheating in one way or another. On the server which most of you are coming from, vote abuse was not checked for months after launch. People would occasionally be banned for it, but only after they had been reported by other users. So, when vote abuse was seriously checked for the first time on a server-wide level, the results were astounding: Nearly half of the active user-base was vote abusing. I remember being in a guild that typically had 20+ players online. For that one week, we would be lucky to have 4 or 5 players on. Anyone who was playing the server at this time will remember how the server felt completely dead because so many people had been banned for cheating the system. These were not 'bad,' 'undesirable' people. It was almost the majority! These were well-liked players who made the server such an enjoyable, welcoming place to be part of.

    Now, I'm not saying that there shouldn't be harsh punishments to deter cheating. Rather, I hope that as a community, especially one that has had these kinds of experiences first-hand, we can recognize the importance of giving people a second chance. I would like to suggest that we only give permanent bans for especially extreme violations of the server's integrity. I believe that permanent bans (in most cases) should be replaced with a 100 day MAC/IP ban, along with a permanent ban of all current accounts (and of course no ban evading, like any other ban).

    On other servers, people ask for a fresh start literally a year after their ban and are rejected. I would hope that we are not so closed-minded as a community to think that this is justified. Even in real life, it would be incredibly demeaning to treat ex-convicts as though they should never get a second chance, or should be forever judged for their mistakes.

    And this is just a game
    MapleF11
     
    • Like Like x 1

Share This Page