Poll: How should the AP Reset change be handled?

I don't get how some people consider lowering the price of resets as a decrease in difficulty. Its not like you originally worked for it, you just go through effortless voting and eventually get enough for your goal, however long it may be. This just decreases the time for people to be able to finish up their washing which should be a positive. I'm also pretty sure 99% of nostalgic players didn't know or go through the process in gms anyway.

 

Oh give me a break, you're seriously saying that because waiting isn't the only part of the process that it isn't significant? What happens when I achieve my level/gear goals before I achieve my NX cash goal? What am I forced to do then? As it stands, waiting around to vote for NX is a necessary part of the process of creating a bossing character, so there absolutely is a "wait2win" element, and the fact that getting geared up is also a part of the process doesn't change that.

It's like saying "pay2win is a stupid term because it's not like paying will get you EXP, it only gets you EXP multipliers!", it's ridiculous.

 

im sorry is someone forcing you to wash????
you want max dpm as a dk? you want 8k hp as a NL?
you wait!

 

Slinging mud from one side to another isn't really going to do much; If you feel strongly about the AP reset changes, then make a suggestion (like the one I made winkwinknudgenudge opinions please https://forum.maplelegends.com/inde...-tickets-a-new-way-to-obtain-ap-resets.13491/ )
I think it's pretty clear that they aren't just going to massively drop the price without some more lengthy discussions beforehand.

 

Perfect weapon in 4 months? LUL
I'm done with you

 

Give all classes a well rounded buff to max HP so it counts up to enough to boss. Problem solved. HP washing is something people did not do in Maplestory. NOBODY payed $500 USD to make an optimal bowman. We should not have to gimp ourselves just to be able to do our job, as a bossing character. Its idiotic to just reduce the wait time, when wait time can just be removed. HP washing can stay, that is fine, for people who want extra stats. But if every character had the base HP to begin with, then there would be no need for casual players to delve into this madness.

 

Not without making it much too easy for already "safe" classes like warriors and buccs.

Balancing any game is hard and frequently causes flamewars on game forums for this reason.

 

Biggest issue with that is that it makes the game MUCH easier/safer as a whole, which I'm pretty sure is not something this server would aim to do. If you think the outrage over the price reduction was bad, then I wouldn't want to see how it would be if people logged in with 2k extra HP on their Night Lords.
A lot of people most certainly did pay hundreds of dollar in vanilla MS to wash their characters for bossing. Just not our generation of 13-year-olds at the time.

 

Read this sentence again and think about what you just said.

Gear goal? 4 months? Come on...

 

I'm sure there is some workaround to that making mobbing or other activities easier. I can't one man the whole plan. It's just like... the fact that people DID do it doesn't make it OK. Its still ass to have to entrench for the long run and plan around HP washing. Crippling yourself for the sake of efficiency just isn't fun.

 

Point is, most people on this server don't want it to be easy. They don't want everyone to have access to Horntail one month after joining the server. We joined this server because we played during Maple's earliest days, where a lot of things was hell... and we enjoyed every second of it, so we're back for more.
If we wanted easier mobbing, easier travelling, tankier characters or anything of the sort, we'd go to other private servers that make our lives easier.

 

I don't want easy. I just don't want content locked behind this barrier of nonsense. Waiting and crippling yourself is not difficulty. There is nothing difficult about voting every day or investing in intelligence. It's just an annoyance barrier.

 

well im good with the changes.
but would like to have a reinbursement of vote cash points on previous purchase of AP resets due to the change in cost.
it would be better that way for everyone i believe.

 

If we played the game as it should be, then you'd be going for HT at, for example for a Bowmaster, level 195+ without HP equips. Washing is an optional trick that lets you go at earlier levels.
At the time, Horntail was the ultimate endgame boss; if you make washing too easy by crushing the price or something of the sort, then Horntail becomes way too easily achievable and everyone's Bishops are running around with Genesis 30 and Maple Warrior 20.
I believed a price reduction was the best thing to do at first, but I now believe there are other alternatives; make washing a bit less tedious (while making people work for it) by making AP resets obtainable through other means than the cash shop (while leaving the price intact.) This is probably the solution that would get the most support from both sides.

 

Congratulations on completely missing the point

 

see the thing is its not wait2win because you dont really have to wait
you can boss without having 30k hp

 

ty mama always told me i was smart

 

Wait2win really isn't an appropriate term because, as we pointed out, there should never be a period of time where you're unable to play in a productive manner.

The premise of being geared up and ready for bossing before you reach your HP goal is ridiculous. It's not going to happen under normal circumstances.

 

Who knows? Maybe DesuYo was planning on duping ws

 

Is "wait4hitpoints" satisfactory for you, then? The point is that your progression in one aspect of the game is entirely dependent on waiting rather than actually playing. Telling me that I could just go progress in some other area of the game during the waiting doesn't change how stupid it is.