Gachapon Changes

We are all spoiled to even have free vote cash and the opportunity to gach. Back in the days most people couldnt afford nx for gach, specially not 5k nx per day. I say accept the changes were made. They were made for a reason.

Think its kinda ungrateful of the community to always complain when the GMs decide to make any change. Must be really tiring for them.

Ps. This is writen by a poor unfunded chief bandit that have never gotten a ws or chaos scroll from gachapon.

 

I can't wait till I get me some more of those

You are no where near the level for understanding why they complain. This continuing with this lack of understanding is also why you will remain a poor unfunded chief bandit.

I have historical proof of people like you, low level and new whom defend the staff only to the turn other leaf once they reach the levels of the players complaining. I'd recommend you get to that level and hold the same option before talking.

In regards to opportunity to gach, ask yourself how else this server would get scrolls. Half the scrolls desired are no where to be found. Gach hunting tickets were made in response to who? That's right, the same high level players who were fed up of having absolutely no supply of anything end game what so ever. They were fine with gach being shit provided they could hunt for their items, instead they create an overhaul on the gach which lead to high level players progression being completely dependent on RNG, whether it be yours, mines, or that level 48 cleric. Right now you've simply never reached that spot, but once you do, if you do, everything they've once felt will be inflicted upon you. So trust it when the players who've been here for years make their statement. They may be immature when they declare it but like Kim has previously stated "They just want whats best for the server".

 

I do understand the wish for a supply for engame items. But i feel that some people dont get satisfied no matter what. The game is what it is. It aint perfect, it has alot of flaws. If anything scrolls should be dropped at a higher rate or from different kind of mobs. The whole idea of using lottery-like machine to obtain scrolls is kinda stupid when you think about it.

And even if im unfunded and poor doesnt mean that i cant understand how other people feel, or how the game works. I simply just aint a person that like complaining alot.

 

You do realize the staff are the ones who went forward with farmable gach ticks instead of farmable scrolls, even though back then the player base specifically asked for adding scrolls to drop table?

Personally, I don't have any opinion yet on the current gach rate changes without actually seeing the rates in practice. But the implementation is as frustrating as ever. Just as with the AP Reset changes just recently, there was no warning whatsoever. And really, no testing whatsoever on the the numbers decided. I can't emphasize enough that you can't just throw out numbers randomly and implement to see how it affects things.

 

Yes I do. And I can understand why they did it. Modifying drop rates for all scrolls is one hell of a job.

Im not trying to argue with anyone. I just wish people wouldnt complain so much, thats all.

 

Let's just get silently buttfucked then Kappa

 

I feel that the change is necessary if you consider the influx of new players, sure you can say that these new players may 1 day become high level players and demand the same pool of items/scrolls as the current high level players but it won't be at least months before you see an undersupply.

For now, I still believe that having a deficit is better than a surplus in the market, you can easily tweak to mitigate the deficit but you can't remove the surplus from the market which generally destroys the economy in the short-run as everything is aplenty and the challenge is gone.

 

So another person who claims that because something is "free", there's no room for discourse, opinion, or complaint. It's not quite the same thing as when you get a free sample of a cracker at the grocery store. You don't like the cracker, you spit it out and move on. You don't like an aspect of a game that has changed which you have spent tons of time on... you are unhappy.

But what reason? Is it a good reason? A valid reason? A correct reason?

And I think it's pretty retarded to white knight the staff when you have no clue what you are talking about.

Welcome to the internet. Unsatisfied people are the least of your concerns. There are always going to be people who say X is too easy or Y is too hard. You can't satisfy everyone, and some people you can never satisfy. That's life. The trick is knowing to accept that fact, but not being so jaded by it that you can comprehend when 99% of your playerbase disagree with something for good reason.

Except when it isn't, and anything can change at the drop of a hat by the whim of the administrators.

You can start helping by not complaining about people complaining

 

No its really not. You can get it done within a day, if you actually put in the effort.

If people didn't complain / give alternative opinions when they disagreed, you'd have a very dull server. Complaints change things and get things thought about on a new level of depth. If you don't like complaints I suggest you go find a server that's full of "Yes" players who agree with absolutely everything. (Good luck finding one).

 

First staff doesn't follow through with the ap reset price reduction and now they make gacha a little worse. Just wondering if staff is working against the players.
I think this wil only increase the frustration with players and they might want to vote abuse and gacha with more accounts simply because they cant get money to do anything with 1 account.

 

To be fair though, players shouldn't be relying on Gachapon as their sole source of income. There are so many ways to make money in the game, if you're dropping your vote money on 5 NX Gach a day, hoping to get lucky from them to help you afford basic gear and potions, you're doing it wrong.
Would be pretty desperate to start vote abusing for gach in hopes of getting more stuff because you can't make money otherwise.

 

There isn't a need to manually change the Gacha I don't think. As new folks get higher levels they will start needing chaos and white scrolls, increasing the market price naturally.
Pretty sure the low prices being seen now are simply because of the divide of players that are old and new. That divide will shrink over time, so this sort of change is temporary and seems unnecessary.
A lowering of drop rates in a time of little demand has the risk of causing an item drought later on when the demand gets bigger.

 

A lottery machine is not "gameplay".

Though, I am happy that you guys are monitoring the state of the market.

 

I really don't think anyone in this thread is "panicking". Other players on the server maybe, I dunno. But that wouldn't happen if you quickly answered a question. Let me say it again!

More specifically, if you have all the statistics...

What was the expected rate to get a white scroll, chaos scroll, pac, etc.

And what is the new expected rate?

 

Just saying.. as stated previously, Gachapon is not game-play. Its probably one of the worst aspects of maplestory, the whole "gameplay" sense of it is RNG...

The worst part is that its been such a common factor for so long that its become a must-have in a private server community. Its horrible, hard to balance and extremely frustrating at times.
-- Rant done.

My only issue with this whole thing was the lack of warning. Feels extremely rushed. You could have also pulled aside some of the more knowledgeable players in the community and discussed with them their thoughts on the matter. This way it wouldn't look like such a fiesta when you introduce sudden changes.

 

it's quite funny because this sounds exactly like HP washing, just replace Gachapon with HP wash and RNG with time wasted.

Yet you have a problem with HP washing staying.

 

HP washing isn't time wasted, its a way to customise your character to make it unique compared to others of the same Class. Its an extra mile you can go to determine how tanky your class can be.
Comparing Gachapon to HP washing is extremely ignorant.

ps - love you granberg <3

 

I hate rain because I never have an umbrella when I need it.

change those words with

I hate BBQ because I never have a napkin when I need it.

Totally an argument that proves one is a lying hypocrite!