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Why gunslingers are shit tier

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Jaikor, Feb 5, 2015.

  1. Jaikor
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    Jaikor Dark Stone Golem Retired Staff

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    Hi, as you may have noticed in game I am currently a gunslinger. This is actually my first time ever playing this class and overall, all I can say is this class is total shit. Never before have I encountered a class that is complete shit more than this. I will explain why. In the first few stages of the game for a gunslinger, not only do they less damage compared to all classes but they also scale badly in terms of damage even with every stat distributed to Dex. I'll also point out that specific classes have a passive ability that outshines other classes, where as gunslingers have none. They have useless skills like grenade, wings and shit like blank shot. Classes like hunters, sins have a passive ability that allows them to crit and have more accuracy. Warriors and mages have passive abilities which increase HP/MP. Before I end my rant, I know that you might be thinking that oh yeah, gunslingers are strong in 4th job. But are they really? Considering the fact that NL's outright out damages corsairs from start to finish, I do not think so. Let's also take in consideration that HP washing is a complete nonfactor for corsairs as well and at 4th job ships are not permanent, they have HP and expire. When they do expire your DPS drops more than half for 90 seconds. Whenever the server official server opens and this class doesn't get buffed early or late, ain't no way in holy hell I will be playing this class ever again.

    Allow me to put it into perspective so you have a better understanding.
    *Classes have equips relevant to their level and is hitting the same mob

    Lv50 Gunslinger
    Doubleshot
    Damage: 200-230 x2

    Lv32 Cleric
    Magic Claw
    Damage: 200-250 x2

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    Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but if you disagree with me please state why. I'll end on a positive note, it's a fun class if you like staggering behind others.
     
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    magic damage is different from weapon attack
    you can simply choose not to add useless skills
    sairs get battleship
    they won't get buffed so throw that idea out the window
    all classes suck except for hero
     
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    I think all that you posted here is irrelevant but I'll respond to your suggestion. So.. you're telling me to leave 50+ sp, for nothing. Of course magic damage is different from weapon. I'm applying every single class to gunslingers and for this case I just used mages as a reference. Not all classes are balanced, that is why they rebalanced the classes in the later versions.
     
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    Corsairs have a higher DPM than NLs or some shit like that. This was a huge topic back in the day and people would post charts all over basilmarket proving it. But yeah, until corsairs they suck ass.
     
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    Yeah I would agree. Slingers are a horrible first character and are barely playable with funding. But the endgame payout is awesome; sit on your ass, hold one button and pin bosses against the wall.
     
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    Highest self-buffed DPM in the game. Overall DPM second only to a NL with SE.

    Yes, they suck in the first 3 jobs.
     
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    so go play a v83 server. skill revamps are the worst thing that can happen to an early server.
    if you don't want to play sair, don't play sair. you don't need to come here crying about it and asking for a skill revamp because you aren't patient to get it to 4th job.

    edit: you also didn't end on a positive note at all. i don't know why you think that further complaining about how bad the class is is a positive note
     
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    This is what you called implied sarcasm. I think you should take a break and come back after you re-read this entire thread multiple times before you post again. Is this in the suggestion section? Did I say anything about a skill revamp? Did I not just summarized why gunslinger is a shit tier class? What does it have ANYTHING to do with me wanting to play this server or not? I never thought stupidity could escalate so quickly. As far as I am concerned, this is an opinion thread. I am stating my opinion, you are free to do so as well but don't come here and talk shit about me moving to a different server if I am unable to live with the results of a shit class in Legends. If you're unable understand what is being posted, perhaps you should not post at all.

    OnionYes
     
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    You have some serious issues. Calm your vagina.

    There's an off-topic section for bitching and complaining.
     
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    Calm down people. Everyone has the right to give an opinion and if you disagree with it, say so in a NICE way. Going all nuts on the person doesn't get your point across any better, it only makes it worse.
     
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    Please don't turn out like mapleroyal's forums where people are incredibly rude and demeaning to others opinions... And if you have an opinion share it in a nicer way... Good job Kimberly setting it straight, I want the forums to be a place where everyone can peacefully voice their opinions
     
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    what a nerd^

    (jk friends irl)
     
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    Gunslingers are a bit weak. We all know that. However, Gunglingers have cool unique skills and have awesome playing styles. I think playing a gunslinger would be waaay more fun than a mage. Not every class is about DPS
     
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    Jess, osooso
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    Way to grave dig ryan.
     
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    DPM wise, Corsairs are the top notch best. Solo. A couple of alliance members and myself have compared vigorously the DPM of Corsairs to other classes. Rapid fire from Corsairs is better then the BM if BM did not have Sharp Eyes. And this particular buff does scale far better with them and NL. However, Corsairs battleship makes them a very serious contender DPM wise.

    I do agree that battleship is a very odd skill. Having it's own HP pool, adding defenses but slowing you down horribly. Dealing with knockback must be downright awful when in a battleship. And pinning in a Battleship must be quite difficult. The biggest discrepency I found with the skill (and my biggest headscratcher). Is the fact is gets a higher cooldown with every skill point you put in it. While only getting marginally better defenses.

    In my opinion, this skill should be changed to do the opposite. Make it have a high cooldown while lowering it the more Skill points are put into it. Give the corsairs a decent defense and DPM buff with the battleship. But not having to deal with a stupid 5 minute cooldown when you only have 90 second cooldown at skill level 1.
     
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    could say the same of you
     
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    > complaining about 2nd job classes
    > you clearly have not tried f/p 2nd job
    So far, you haven't laid out clearly why slingers are bad other than they have no passive or active buffs...
     
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    >reddit spacing
     
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