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Regarding Final Attack..

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by tenkuuke, Apr 4, 2023.

  1. tenkuuke
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    tenkuuke Red Snail

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    Hi, newbie here.

    Just yesterday I read about FA being a terrible skill... Is it really that bad? My single target dmg seems a lot better with it. But slash blast being negatively impacted by it does suck :<

    How much of a detriment is it in 3rd/4th job?
     
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    ooShawnyoo Dark Stone Golem

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    Until you stop using Power Strike and Slash Blast, it will always be a problem.

    Your Slash Blast will suck. Whenever it triggers your character is stuck in place during the animation and you have no control of when it happens. You also use SP on those skills that could perhaps be more practical on others.

    In the end it's just awful in its current state :/
     
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    Don't do it! Put those SP into another skill. Final Attack is worthless for warriors and hurts your DPM. If you're an Archer, it's detrimental!

    If the GMs ever find a way to learn the coding behind this feature and increase the damage by a factor of 5-10, then it'll be a useful skill. Until then, it's just an infectious disease.
     
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    tenkuuke Red Snail

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    dang it... it's too late :( already have it at 30!

    Would it be possible for a gm to reset my sp? Or would I have to buy the sp resets from cash shop?
     
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    It's a cool skill, put a few points in it for fun. There's no long term detriment, your training will just be a little bit slower in 2nd/3rd job

    I wouldn't max it though, you won't have enough SP since it's better to prioritize Master + Booster + Rage + Power Guard
     
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    tenkuuke Red Snail

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    Unfortunately, I found out just yesterday and my warrior is lvl 63 -_-;; really wish I looked up a guide first :<
     
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    GooBeR Master Chronos

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    I have not tried this but I believe this has been recommended to people who put points into Final attack.


    There should be something done about this. How many people have ruined their characters by maxing out final attack? There could be a warning on the skill description to not put points into it.
     
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    Kimmy Administrator Staff Member Administrator Game Moderator

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    Even if we buffed it, you would still lose DPS if you 1 hit KO mobs because you end up wasting time on slashing an extra time. Just a very poorly designed skill
     
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    SaviorSword Dark Stone Golem

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    Replace it with Physical Trainin'? :X

    https://maplestory.fandom.com/wiki/Physical_Training
     
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    You can remove all points put into Final Attack with SP Resets. If you've maxed your SP in 2nd Job and cannot reset any more into lower job skills, there is still a way. This assumes you're 3rd or 4th Job at this point...
    1. Level Up
    2. Put Fresh SP into a 1st Job Skill
    3. Use a 3rd or 4th Job AP Reset (whichever you currently are). Take an SP out of Final Attack, replace it into a 3rd or 4th Job Skill.

    It may take a couple of levels to fully reset (I had to with my Sniper and still need to with my Ranger), but you'll never permanently destroy your character unless you've maxed Final Attack and are level 191+.
     
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    tenkuuke Red Snail

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    the sp resets only do one sp per use right? Is there a bulk buy version? Or do I have to purchase them one by one?
     
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    tbh, its something that has always circled in my mind.

    Whats stopping the team to edit the skill into something completely different?
    Like a general +critchance% ? or increased class stats (str/dex I guess)

    Given the skill already exists, whats the determining hard part of completely revamping the formula / action the skill gives to the player?
     
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    ooShawnyoo Dark Stone Golem

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    I would just buff the Slash Blast damage and remove the animation so the extra hit just happens while you can just keep moving and attacking.
     
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    tenkuuke Red Snail

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    I wonder if a GM would be kind enough to reset my 2nd job sp...

    pweez :3
     
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    I wouldn't count on a GM SP reset

    But you can do what the poster above said regarding 4th job resets. This doesn't cost you any extra NX in the long run, since you would want to SP wash anyway to move 1st/2nd job skills into 3rd job.

    In the mean time you can leave Rage unmaxed, I think it's the most replaceable skill since you can buy ciders
     
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    tenkuuke Red Snail

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    Alrighty, thanks a ton everyone. Going to just buckle down and reset SP one by one.
     
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    petition to remove final attack skill
     
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    I think Final Attack should be changed so that it replaces the attack and the animation rather than triggering an extra attack afterwards. That would go a long way in making it feel less clunky and detrimental.
     
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    if it ger disabled for the mob skill, and get a buff to be fast on the single target skill to made heros for example charge combo fast

    for dk, dk will go for hybird anway

    for pages: dont think any negative point on my suggestion
     
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    I'd think the easiest fix for FA is making it an active toggle for now, maybe it deserves a rework but idk enough about the skill to say what that should be.
     

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